January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

champion ? How bad is the heavyweight division going. Toney would have been
lucky to be rated in the top 10 when Ali was ruling. Quarry would have given him
a boxing lesson "Yet even at the higher weight, he has far superior skills to
Ruiz and if he hasn't lost a step or two, I think he will dominate Ruiz. I am
picking Toney by
decision."***********************************************Very true.
Nothing against Toney, but he's 5'9", way over weight and out of his league.
What does that tell us about the heavyweight division today? That fight was
poor. Ruiz is a poor excuse for a Heavyweight Champion. It takes an aged, blown
up middleweight to outpoint him for the WBA title. The only heavyweight who
looks half way legitimate is Chris Byrd and that's not saying much.Bring
back Ali(pre-1970), Quarry, Liston, Holmes, Tyson(pre-
1990)...|
|5/1/05 06:25:16 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|First of all, welcome ! I think
Vitali Klitschko is very strong indeed !|
|5/2/05 12:37:55 AM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|I thought the
Toney/Ruiz fight was better than I expected, not a great fight but not a bad one
either. Ruiz fought his heart out and even though he is a limited fighter, he
has nothing to be ashamed of as he showed a champion's heart in trying to keep
his title.Toney as a middleweight typically had to lose 30 to 40 pounds
for each fight so he is at least a natural crusiorweight. He has superior
skills compared to most of the crop of heavyweights today and he would have a
good chance to beat anyone. He can't help the era he is in and I like him as a
fighter. I don't think he needed to be so hard on Ruiz after the fight
though. He totally disrespected him when he could have just as easily honored
the effort Ruix put out. Him saying Don King should throw Ruiz in the trash can
was totally uncalled for.|
|5/2/05 11:39:00 AM|Forest Ward|NYC||raymccormack2003||||10|Kent, I got to
disagree with you on this one. Ruiz has a lot to be ashamed of. Consider this
for almost the whole fight he was being backed up by a 37 year old, over weight,
former middleweight champ. I can't imagine Holmes, Frazier Ali, Liston,
Marciano, Dempsey, Walcott, Louis... Even Jerry Quarry would not allow Tooney
to back him up for almost the whole fight. My lasting memory of Ruiz will be of
him always trying to win a fight on a foul, and always complaining to the
referee about his opponents transgressions, but obviously never his own misdeeds
ie. hitting and holding, rabbit punches, hitting on the break, low blows...
Goodbye and good riddance to Mr. Jab and grab.|
|5/2/05 03:01:51 PM|JOEY|Canada||jco@aol.com||||10|I think unfortunately when a
division within a sport is under the monopoly of crooked promoter(s)a lot of
champions tend to surface in order to create a lot of pay per views that aren't
worth the money, not to mention ringside seats. Generally there is 1
heavyweight per era who dominates the division. The last one I can remember is
TYSON during his golden years. LEWIS deserves an honourable mention but who did
he really fight; an aged HOLYFIELD and a washed up TYSON(I will give LEWIS a lot
of credit for retiring when he did and staying that way). With the exception of
KLITSCHKO and perhaps CHRIS BYRD as a strong contender, I don't see anything out
there. If TONEY wants to fight a washed up heavyweight, he should give TYSON a
shot at his title. I think it would be a good fight, more or less even size wise
and I'm certain that TYSON would take TONEY's head off.|
|5/2/05 03:28:25 PM|Kent|Murrietta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Forest, I
think Ruiz showed heart against Toney and that is why he has nothing to be
ashamed of. He is a limited fighter who only held a belt because the division
is weak, but I believe he did the best he could, he threw more punches than he
usually does and he didn't hold and foul like he has before and for this he has
my respect.|
|5/2/05 04:27:59 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Joey: Right
on target.Forrest: Right on target.Kent: Ruiz is a classic has been