January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

WON THAT FIRST FRAZIER FIGHT, 2 KNOCKDOWNS, IT WAS ENOUGH FOR JERRY IN THAT 2ND
PATTERSON FIGHT.|
|4/12/04 09:27:23 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Bonavena was
originally trained by Marciano's trainer Charlie Goldman for about his first
nine fights. I don't know whey they broke up. Oscar had real potential. |
|4/12/04 10:43:30 AM|Fran|philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|Thanks Kent I'll check
them out. Was the Mathis fight telivised? If so then the networks would have a
tape guess it wasn't. Klitschko is inexpeirienced, shouldn't be with
Steward, and should get a good physical before he does anything. The difference
in corners was huge Brewsters people were right on every bit of advice they
gave, Steward didn't give Klitschko anything "nice fight" is all I heard him
say. He could have said throw the uppercut more or just straight punches and aim
the right at Brewsters chest. He was hitting brewster high on the head except
the one that almost took Brewsters head off, he wasn't hurting Brewster.
Klitschko has talent and looked good but is very raw. I don't think he was hurt
just ran out of gas and has no way of maintaining his composure when he is tired
or hurt he just falls a part. Jerry was on the other hand very tricky and
dangerous when hurt. Klitschko seems like he has never been tested. He didn't
know what to do with a big southpaw who could bang or with a guy just trying to
wear him out. |
|4/12/04 12:30:10 PM|Massimo " Andre' s son " Cini|Roma, Lazio, Italia,
Europa||4||||10|Oscar Bonavena never beat Joe Frazier. If ( or weither) you give
the second round 10-8 to Oscar, Frazier is 1 point ahead at the end of the
fight, if you give the round 10-7 to Oscar, you have a draw. As the second
knockdown wasn't that impressive, I think it was a 10-8 round, not 10-7.
Bonavena won round 2 and 10. Frazier won the following rounds: 4, 5, 8, 9. I'm
an expert on this subject ! I have the tape of the fight. But Bonavena was very
very strong. Oscar Natalio would have easily beaten Lamon Brewster ! Lamon is,
yeah, a good fighter but you know... He is no Carnera... |
|4/12/04 01:51:15 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|I thought the
first Frazier-Bonavena fight was very close. Could have been called a draw. Joe
clearly won the second fight. Oscar took a real pounding and could not even see
at the end of the fight and actually had to be led out by his handlers. Oscar
was NOT the first man to scored a knockdown against Joe – 245lb Mike Bruce was
the first to deck Joe in the pros. |
|4/12/04 02:27:44 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Wladimir
Klitschko just isn't world class. He's showed flashes of talent on occassion---
maybe SOME of the raw skills it takes to be world class, but that's about it.
If you're inconsistent, have a questionable chin and no stamina, you're not a
Top 10 fighter. Guys (and ladies), Klitsckho ain't world class material. Never
has been. I think a lot of people WANT him to be great. That's not enough. |
|4/13/04 02:46:27 AM|Ed|Cicero n y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Kent,U
might be right about T Atlas referring to Klitschko as fighter who has health
problems and should quit. I was thinking he meant Evander Holyfield
though.Angelo Dundee alwasys said when a big guy goes "flat" during fight he
stays flat. It was sure true in that fight Sat. night. I think those 2 brothers
overtrain to the point that they get injured easily and they leave there best
fight in the gym.|
|4/13/04 04:30:25 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|There are
some rumors floating arong the Internet that Wladimir Klitschko is a diabetic
and that he had dangerous blood sugar levels after the fight.But even if
this is true, it doesn't solve the problem that he can't take a punch because
even if he would have made it back to his corner after round five, he still
would have been vunerable to the next bombs Brewster would land in round six and
thereafter. Klitschko fans should face it. Every time Wladimir gets hit
with a big punch, he folds up like a card table. He can solve all of his
stanima problems but this won't solve his inhearent weak chin problem.