January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

not given enough credit for their overall physical strenth.I'm not talking about
punching power.I mean the kind of overall,leg,back,shoulder and arm strenth that
allowed Ali to clinch and hold with big fighters so that they couldn't get
free.He could grab a fighter behind the neck, and pull his head and upper body
paralell to the floor,and keep him there untill the ref. broke it up.Many of his
longer fights resulted in his opponent succuming to exhausting and accumalitive
damage from his reportedly not very hard punches. |
|9/9/03 08:52:11 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Angelo, in
Foreman/Frazier 1 where was Frazier's offense? Except for one token left hook
early in the first round, Frazier hand no offense for Foreman to show disdain
for as he was knocked down and badly hurt early in the round. In fact, I don't
think Joe should have been allowed out of his corner for round two. No fight,
even if for the heavyweight championship of the world, is worth getting killed
for.So we don't know if Foreman could have handled Joe's offense of not.
I repeat, I still think if Lyle was capable of hurting Foreman and for that
matter Ali was capable of hurting Foreman, than Frazier had the power to hurt
Foreman too if given the chance. Foreman never let him in the fight.|
|9/9/03 10:35:57
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Kent - yes, I
guess you're right. Jerry did stay a bit erect a lot of the time. Frazier's
bobbing and weaving wouldn't have been natural for him, but some of it wouldn't
have hurt him. He seemed to do a decent job of keeping his hands up and in good
position, with the exception of those times when he got really hot. On that
subject, it's interesting that Frazier utilized one of the two main techniques
boxers are taught when they're beginning, to keep their hands up. He'd tap his
own head when his hands - more his right than his left - began to drift down.
Joe was like Jerry in that respect - the hotter the pace, the lower his hands
would go. Sometimes, only his arrhythmic bobbing and weaving kept a good counter
from landing.In his autobiography, Frazier says that he didn't feel
right leading up to his fight with Foreman, whether from the high blood
pressure, the heat, whatever. Possibly he was feeling some effects of his first
fight with Ali. I don't think he looked in top shape, nor did I sense the usual
intensity. Anything solid he landed on George was obviously not enough. I know
lots of fighters make excuses, but Frazier never was one of those. He was about
as un-crybaby as they come. During one of the many interviews after Manila, he
issued one of the best tough guy remarks of all times. Asked if he was ever
hurt, he replied, sincerely, "No, I wouldn't say that I was hurt. I just
couldn't see the man!" Priceless!|
|9/10/03 01:23:14 AM|Ed|Cicero n y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|When I said I
thought Foreman could beat Frazier 10 out of 10 times I didn't mean to denigrate
Joe Frazier. Theres no question he's an all time great heavyweight champion. Its
just that George was great at handleing shorter fighters. He probably had the
hardest jab of any heavy and Joe was just to easy to hit with it. Also he easily
pushed Frazier back ( illegial and was warned for it but its going to happen) to
set up his bombs. The second fight where Frazier shaved his head for psych
tactic, Joes more defensive style only extended the fight a few
rounds.Theres some fighters that Joe could beat and Foreman couldn't, such
as Ali. I can't imagine Jimmy Young beating Frazier either.One other thing
about Foreman, I think its safe to say no one will ever beat his record as
oldest man to win heavyweight championship.|
|9/10/03 03:22:37 AM|Massimo|Rome||warren coolidge better than
chamberlain.com||||10|Why didn't Foreman use his jab against Ali' ? That was a
big mistake ! If he had won that fight, now I would be remembered as the
greatest heavyweight of all times ( after Carnera, Damiani and Erminio Spalla,
of course...). Anyway, I rank him in the top 3 ever.|
|9/10/03 03:50:25 PM|max hord|fernandina Bch,Fla||rasluc@msn.com||||10|A great
big man is gonna beat a great little man every time.Give me an example of where