January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

ME AN APOLOGY AS I READ ALL OF MY POSTS AFTER THAT POINT AND I AM DISCUSSING THE
ISSUES WITH NOTHING PERSONAL DIRECTED AT YOU.You just didn't like it
that in your mind, I hadn't admitted Frazier/Quarry 2 was not a title
elimination fight. I could not answer on this as I didn't know and still don't
know if it was or not and while you bringing up the question put in my mind it
might not have been one, it didn't prove it wasn't one. because if the New York
State Athletic Commision said it was, then that body carried a lot of authority
outside of New York at the time. If you have proof it wasn't one and have
posted this information, maybe I missed it so post it again and I will
acknowledge I was wrong if the information holds merit, but I will not apologize
to you as it was you who were rude to me.|
|3/5/05 05:33:25 PM|Kent|same||same||||10|by after the point, I mean after
Forest's Job comment until Noam's "Balls" comment. After this comment by Noam,
I responded in kind to Noam, not before.|
|3/5/05 06:47:44 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|FanMy meaning was that some of
the Frazier Groupies seem to be unemployed as they have more time to research
and post comments. I was commenting to Howard C. that unlike some we do have
jobs.KentI do not owe you an apology. You initially said that
the fight was sanctioned as an eliminator. Now, rather than admit that it
wasn't, you say you don't know whether it was.The MSG and New York State
Boxing Commission has NO authority to sanction world title eliminations. Fact.
It did not control world boxing. Wise up, admit you are wrong, and apologize for
being rude. When you do that I will realize that you do have "balls" and
I will then apologize for being wrong in saying that you don't have them.
AngeloYour post was very fair. When you take the emotion out of
it, and sit back and read Frazier's record, the holes there are glaring. He
missed fighting some of the best of his era, seemed always to be looking for the
easy option, usually avoided big punchers, and fought guys he'd already
flogged.Take the first Ali fight out of his portfolio, and you've just
about gutted his entire portfolio. A friend of my father, who was
heavily involved in the boxing scene from the 1960s onwards, once told me, "Poor
old Joe had to be propped up by his management after the first Ali fight. They
knew he was shot so they tried to save him for the important
fights."Looking at Joe's record, those words ring true.|
|3/5/05 08:32:16 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||Kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Noam, I
changed my position on saying it was a title elimination fight to I am not sure
it was a title elimination fight because you brought up the possiblity. I will
have to research on my own, not just cause you say it is so. If I find you are
correct, I will acknowledge this. Disagreeing with you is not being rude, you
taking a cheap shot by saying I have no balls is being rude and sir, you owe me
an apology and everyone else here knows it.|
|3/5/05 11:07:17 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Everything I
post is from pure memory or if I sometimes go to another site to look up
someone's record. The reason I did at least give the possibility that I was
incorrect regarding Frazier/Quarry 2 and then I said I wasn't sure if it was
true or not, is because I haven't done independent research to confirm or deny
it one way or the other. It is quite possible I haven't had the time to do so.
I think I was being flexible and open minded by considering I could be wrong.
Yet someone here continues to insult me even when I said he might be right just
because I disagreed with him before on this issue and I continue to disagree
with him regarding the larger issue regarding Frazier's greatness.Notice
how Angelo and I have argued points back and forth now and probably in the past
about other things but we still show each other mutual respect, as it should
be.|
|3/6/05 03:34:07 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|KentAn official elimination
bout, like you alleged existed between Frazier and Quarry, means that the winner
has a mandatory challenge against the champion.The New York State Boxing