January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

this was worse than just calling him names. He never abused the Vietcong for
killing his brothers that I remember.There were more than enough black
guys fighting in Vietnam, yet Ali placed himself about them by not going. People
around him were filling his head with crap. He was so naive he sucked it all in.
It wasn't until he got away from those lolly brains that he realized what
nonsense he'd been spruiking and then he apologized - too late as someone
said.My views on all this have changed recently, when I really stopped
to think about it. There were white guys in Vietnam fighting for Ali's way of
life against communism. He shouldn't have called them devils. They didn't desrve
it, no way did they. That's all a long, long time ago. I'd much rather dwell on
the good things he did in the ring and more recently out of it. Guys from that
era who still follow boxing probably do so because of him. He made a lot of
boxers very wealthy just by the standards he set. I still think he's done more
good things than bad. But Vietnam and the events surrounding were a stain on his
character, no doubt about it. People who fought in Vietnam when he didn't and
who listened to some of the crap that was spruiked have a right to be angry at
him if they need to be. I probably would be if it was me. |
|7/19/05 11:49:45 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Noam, you
have to be a nut to be on my list so I guess you don't qualify.OK
Massimo, Jumpity Bruce jumps all the way to number six on my list.|
|7/20/05 04:12:27 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Kent, you "guess" I don't qualify for
your hall-of-famer list of idiots. All my hard work has come to nothing. I
should sulk.Howard C, it's never too late to seek treatment from
qualified professionals. It usually helps. Think about it. Ali wasn't
letting anyone down by not going to Vietnam. His religion compelled him to
refuse the draft and that was that. He didn't go and his sincerity can't be
questioned given that he is still a Muslim 40 years on.He was wrong
with the statements he made, but he admitted that error. What more can he do ?
We're all being more than a little precious blaming him for words that he spoke
in his youth. Let he who has not sinned throw the first stone. None of you guys
qualify, especially turncoat Howard C. |
|7/20/05 09:12:27 AM|Fan|USA||n/a||||10|Noam, either do a little research re:
the Nation of Islam or just admit that you do not want to know what they are
about. The group is a bit more complex than sporting bow ties and saying
things to "upset the apple cart"; their philosophy has never been about pacifism
(quite the contrary); and an informed person wouldn't use the word "religion" in
the same sentence. You've taken great pains to make a case that your hero
renounced them, yet, paradoxically, you imply that they were harmless. Why,
then, did the Great One bother, when there was really nothing to renounce at
all? As I've said before, you can't have it both ways, facts are stubborn
things. |
|7/20/05 02:50:58 PM|Italian Stallion|Philly||Unknown||||10|Everybody has the
right to their own religion. I have the right to think that religion is a pile
of crap. Somebody brings that crap onto S. Broad Street they end up with an
American Salute up their ass. You want to honor somebody that won't fight for
your country that's fine. That's your right to, and I have the right to think
it's a pile of crap. Aint America Great! |
|7/20/05 03:11:58 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Fan:
Senator Byrd from West Virginia---a former Klansman?---have you heard him
denounce his ties to the Klan? I haven't. This is a politician, representing a
state, and he has a pretty big voice in the Senate too (long standing member).
Ali is a former boxer for crying out loud. Ali was and is a private citizen.
He doesn't owe you or anyone else an explanation or an apology for what he did
in the 60's. I think Ali still believes in some of the mission he was involved
with in the 60's but has serious issues with certain aspects of the means to the
end. It was 40 years ago, not two months ago. His statements have served to
renounce the aspects of their activities and beliefs that he now feels to have