January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

fighting Liston. Foreman was one of Liston's sparring partners and he was in awe
of Sonny. And then Sonny's decline was so fast, and Foreman's rise so sudden,
that they never met in the middle and it was never feasible for them to do it.
Thanks.|
|3/16/05 03:29:27 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve: No,
I'm not belittling Frazier per say, but I am belitting his performance against
Foreman and his management's apparent aversion to guys more threatening than a
1975 version of washed-up and anemic Jimmy Ellis. When Ellis was actually good,
Frazier pulverized him. What's the deal with fighting him in '75, when he had
nothing at all left? As for the Foreman fight(s), Frazier was courageous
but overpowered and outmatched. And he has nothing to be ashamed of because he
fought his hardest and kept getting up to try to defend his title in the first
fight---and had the balls to take on Foreman again and actually do better the
second time. Sorry if the analogy offended the Frazier faithful. By the way,
Frazier has always been a great guest on Howard Stern's show. I don't think
he's been on lately, but was a funny and interesting guest in the past.|
|3/16/05 04:29:34 PM|Yao|Houston,Texas||wiltwasshort.com||||10|Bowe-Zumbrun
confirmed for 7 April. Sad thing.|
|3/16/05 04:41:19 PM|Bugglesworth|Arcadia, FL||BigB@sunshine.net||||9|Joe
Frazier was very good. Everyone has favorite fighters. Mine was Floyd
Patterson. I will argue for Floyd Patterson forever. I know that he wasn't the
greatest or anything, but he was good enough for me. I wish Floyd wouldn't have
have fought so long. I like to think Floyd would always be remembered.|
|3/16/05 05:25:35 PM|Forest Ward|New York City||raymccormack@yahoo
.com||||10|I've been away from the board for almost a week. I come back and the
Ali Worshippers #2 #3 are still at it. you guys give new meaning to the
expression "Chinese water torture." Fan, you are one of the more
knowledgeable and reasonable persons on this site. Help me with this question.
What is wrong these people,worshippers #2, #3, what is their hangup with
Frazier? |
|3/16/05 09:55:13 PM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Actually
Forest (Frazier Lover 1 and hall-of-famer), I know you must get sick of us
correcting you, but I have to do it again.The Frazier subject was gone
and then Frazier Lover 2 brought it up again. He got it wrong, same as you, so
in the interests of accuracy, we had to correct him.You guys have got me
scratching my head. First off, you Lovers said that it was wrong to compare the
careers of Ali and Frazier. So we stopped doing it. Now Frazier Lover 2 wants us
to compare Frazier with Foreman. Whatever suits your case, I suppose, regardless
of the hypocrisy.Frazier Lover 2 says, "Joe ducked a lot of punchers,
but so what, so did Foreman." Not so, Lover 2. Foreman fought Lyle and Norton,
and Joe didn't.Frazier Lover 2 complained that maybe Joe could beat
Foreman if he'd fought him a third time because Joe never got to land a decent
left hook. Hey, Kent, show me the rule where George has to stand still and stick
his jaw out for Joe to hit. If Joe couldn't land it in two fights, HE AIN'T
NEVER GONNA CONNECT WITH IT.So Frazier Lover 2 wants to compare Frazier
to Foreman. Foreman two knockout wins over Frazier. Frazier no wins. Foreman
knocked Joe down eight plus times, Joe never knocked him down once. Comparison
finished. George wins by knockout (again).(Oh by the way, Frazier
Lovers, George could stand up for more than 35 seconds straight against Joe.
Frazier couldn't. Every 35 seconds down he went.)We don't need to guess
about Joe and George. We know the result. But we don't know about Joe versus
Norton and Lyle and Shavers and Mac Foster and Listin, et al. Joe ducked them.
Fact not speculation.|
|3/17/05 02:05:15 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Don't blame me. I haven't written
anything for days. I'm not getting involved this time round.|
|3/17/05 02:42:55 AM|Kent|same||same||||10|Actually some poster who called
himself Smokin Joe Frazier brought up the topic again. I thanked him for it,