January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

unsupervised to go to the other side of the ring. While Ali was clearly better,
was Liston beaten at that point? Not yet in my opinion, though it might only
delay Ali for just a while. I too do not rank Larry Holmes as high as many
apparently do, but he was a master boxer and generally a very good guy who had
to be champ after the greatest wave of talent in the history of the division had
left and retired. I'd have liked to have seen Larry about six years earlier and
really seen what he could've done. I think that if Foreman could have stayed on
track, he'd have defended his belt against Larry about 1977-78 and knocked him
cold. I saw Floyd Patterson and Ingo Johanssen II a few nights ago, made me
think of JQ --- IF Jerry had come along then, say 1960, would he rank any higher
as a former champ over Floyd, Ingo, Rademacher, et al than he does now? I don't
think so, and we did get to see him against a great wave of talent. My point is,
his not having won a belt, even against Ellis, does not take away from him.
Given his popularity 1967-70, it's like he had one anyway. Floyd won it twice,
and still does not rank as high as a two-time champ might otherwise rank all-
time. Another fight that should have been : Frazier vs Norton. I've read that
these two were friends. Too bad, would have been a key early 70's bout. Thanks.
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|8/19/03 12:23:42 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio||jgschultz11@msn.com||||10|Also, for
Steve in Jersey, if we're setting 70's versus 80's teams, here's my take: Ali
over all three handily, Frazier goes 2-1 with a thriller over Holmes, but gets
KO'd by Tyson, who also exposes defensive weaknesses of Foreman in beating him (
remember Ron Lyle)Foreman also goes 2-1 much the same as Frazier. JQ? It's
harder to call versus these three, all would be interesting matches. I'm not
sure I see him over any of them ( sorry guys ), though he clearly would have
chances versus Holmes and Holyfield. You might want to add Ken Norton to the
70's group and a sober Riddick Bowe with Lennox Lewis, both of whom squared off
in the Olympics, to the 80's team to make it an even 5-on-5. Also, for Massimo,
I've read that Carnera was very afraid of killing someone and as a result did
not really let it fly in his time. As for Shaq, gotta disagree. Refs are too
afraid to call fouls fairly on the NBA's top meal ticket, and there are few
other real centers in today''s game. He's 7-1 330lbs. , but can't lead the
league in rebounds, why? I rank him about 7th/8th all-time. Want to see a real
giant athlete? Find some film on Wilt Chamberlain, who might have beaten Ali if
they'd met. Thanks again.|
|8/19/03 01:34:57 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Wilt might well
have beaten Ali? At what ping-pong? We are saying that a man who never entered a
boxing ring would have beaten a man who many believe (including myself) was the
all time greatest. wow.|
|8/19/03 05:34:29 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Wilt
Chamberlain was an incredible athlete who was very quick and agile for a man his
size. This coupled with his incredible strength made him a well rounded over
all athlete. However, the only way Chamberlain could have beaten Ali was if he
had dedicated himself for years to boxing. Boxing is an aquired skill and it is
not something that can be picked up on a moment's notice. Chamberlain had the
raw tools to make one helluva boxer if he had trained at it from an early age.
Maybe the best we would ever see.I not only think Ali would have beaten
Chamberlain easily, I also think our Jerry would have beaten Chamberlain. Oh
what fun us Quarry fans would have had betting on Jerry. You know how the press
was often down on Jerry when he was fighting and a lot of fans were negative
about him too, Wilt would have been the betting favorite and we would have
cleaned up beating the odds. Jerry would have chopped that giant man down to
size!Jerry would have been the perfect opponent as a tune up for an Ali
fight (in some of the public's eye) but Wilt would have never got the Ali fight
if he fought Jerry first!|
|8/19/03 05:38:55 PM|EVREN|LONDON||@||||10|I read on another website regarding
the Earnie Shavers vs Jimmy Ellis bout. I wonder if anyone can verify. On the