January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

knock George down etc. Then fight Ali who lays on the ropes gives away all the
rounds then lays on a few very light combinations to Lyle and the ref stops the
fight???????????? That was the question and the awnser is ....It was fixed.
Question #2 How does he lay on the ropes against Jimmy Young and seemingly lose
every round then get the decision/.................Fixed. 2Nd Spinks fight Ali
held Spinks the whole fight but was never warned. Fixed. And on n on. Question.
WHy did Foreman look drunk when he fought Ali? Because he was . Remember him
saying that they brought him a grapefruit and after he ate it he felt
sleepy.....Fixed. He was good in his prime but was way over hyped and he made
everyone money after he came back. Jerry would have killed him that night he
came back. Ali could not have beaten a good seasoned active hard punching heavy
weight who may have been the best counter puncher ali ever faced. Jerry could
work his combinations off Ali's jab instead of the other guys who walked in and
ate his jabs. He couldn't have come back after 3 years off and beaten a a
fighter of Jerry's caliber. Bonavena had no boxing skills, Frazier killed him.
Have a good day everyone but lets not get hyped up on all that crap about that
guy he was way overhyped. |
|11/13/03 11:45:54 AM|Fran|PA||PLC7755||||10|Why did Foreman get rid of all his
cornermen after the ali fight? Because he knew they sold him out.|
|11/13/03 11:53:51 AM|Evren|London||@||||10|Glad to see we have blind people
posting on the site!|
|11/13/03 12:14:20
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Steve -I
think Ali and the Muslims were a symbiotic relationship. Ali was paranoid about
white people for a time, and that, along with the mileage he could get out of
the Muslims attracted him to them. They were useful for intimidation, attention
getting, negotiations, while he was the poster boy for their politics. Finally,
he didn't need them anymore, really.Fran -It sort of ruins
boxing conversations to think about fixes, so I don't mention the subject much,
but there's no doubt in my mind that at best, judges and referees were swayed by
the Ali mystique, giving him rounds (and often fights as a result) that were
close, at worst, the fights were foregone conclusions. Foreman? Bogus as a three
dollar bill, IMO, punch taking ability by Ali or not. I don't know many people
in RL who're boxing fans, but when I run into them, and I mention fix in this
fight, and they disagree, fine, I won't argue, but I know what I think. All good
fighters know how to employ dirty or illegal techniqus, but Ali did both
constantly, without penalty. Others did too, but he was better at it, and no ref
would call him on it. The ref in Manilla warned Ali once for holding, Frazier
once for hitting low, but both completely ignored him, continued to do it (among
other things), with no consequences.Paul -Jack Johnson had all
the raw material in those days to be an even bigger Ali (flamboyant, great
fighter, running around with white women, beating up white men, etc.), but the
timing was wrong. People then could still get away with overt, no excuse bigotry
towards blacks that they couldn't pull off in Ali's day. Therefore, Johnson was
simply hounded, and eventually run off the scene, after throwing the fight in
Havana. Mann act? Gimme a break! |
|11/13/03 12:51:19 PM|VIDEO POST|The Jerry Quarry Foundation||TJQF||||10|VIDEO POST #7Thanks to a devoted fan from
overseas comes the first of several UK boxing videos. *Note the Quarry fight is
shown, but the result is not mentioned. Earnie is also said to have knocked Ali
down in their fight.Earnie Shavers &#124 BBC-TV
ProfilePlay Video-->> 56K|
|11/13/03 12:59:15
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Lots of fights
that get stopped on cuts can be debated - who woulda won if it'd gone the
distance? One thing is certain in Ali's comeback fight against Quarry though -