January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

espect of these two and to defeat so many others, which again is why I am/was a
Quarry fan in that amazing era. He was ranked how high for how many years?|
|1/4/04 05:40:33 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Gerry-I agree with you that JQ
and KooKoo that JQ would never have beaten Ali', but not just ( or only )
because Cassius was 6' 3" 220. You know better than me that JQ beat several big
guys ! The real reason was that Ali' was too good and too expert and JQ would
never have survived Ali' s jab and would never have been able to hurt ( or of
hurting ) him because Ali' could take a hell of a punch. I don' t agree that
Ali' treated Jerry with respect. He played with JQ in the first two rounds of
the second fightand this was not polite by him. You shouldn' t do this
against any opponent and especially if this opponent is such a great fighter as
JQ.|
|1/4/04 11:06:23 AM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|You Guys have great
points and its great to hear them because you are all JQ fans like me. I just
want to add a few things about how close he was. His tremendous strength boxing
ability and heart took him so close and I really think that there were a few
factors that could have taken him to the top and beat Frazier and Ali.
1. Gil Clancy or a trainer with the ability to dissect Fraziers and
Ali's style and prepare him for what he was about to face. Nothing against his
trainers but some trainers have more expeirience than others and that can make
the difference. Boxing is like a high speed violent chess game and at the level
Jerry was at he was up against guys who were scientists when it came to
strategy.Gil Clancy was one of the best of that era and lets look at what he
accomplished with Jerry.2. Training camp. Can you imagine Jerry training
for Ali at Joe Fraziers gym with Ken Norton and Jimmy Young sparring with him
every day. In that kind of enviorment. The best we saw of Jerry was his
dramatic rise back to the top with Gil Clancy training him. The Lyle fight was
probably Jerry's best he was in great condition kept his cool and worked his
game plan for 12 rounds. The first Ali fight was Jerry's. That was the
worst break he ever got by getting cut. That fight defined him as a bleeder. Ali
was comming back and his people were arrogant. All Jerry had to do was pressure
him make him work and the fight was his. |
|1/4/04 11:46:34
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Fran -As I
said in my most recent post, the big slide can come at any time. Sometimes
though, it's hard to tell when a fighter is beginning his return to becoming an
ordinary man again, in a game with such a short life. Sometimes, what appears to
be a slide may not be, but rather simply an off night or one in which styles
have come heavily into play.It seems Gil Clancy was a good thing, but
timing is another question. Too late, or close to it? Jerry with Eddie Futch,
the "Ali killer" at Joe Frazier's gym, ahead of the first Ali fight would have
been something to see!I think the reason Jerry was just an afterthought
in the movie Ali was that the fight only went three rounds, and while Jerry was
cut, all that has faded into just a night of faded and haunted memories,
becoming just another easy and expected Ali win in history's lovestruck eyes.
I'm sure JQ trained like a maniac, and that Ali was looking two fights ahead. As
I've said before, Jose Torres said he felt Ali would have won in 10 rounds,
looked bad doing it, but even he said this wasn't a sure thing, and he was a
super Ali fan. I do think Jerry would have had to absolutely beat the crap out
of Ali to get the verdict though, probably even knock him down, ala getting a
decision over a South American, Mexican, or Panamanian fighter, in their home
country. That probably would not have happened. Ali was too tricky, too big, had
too much reach, and was nearly indestructible, as we now know.Torres
offers a pretty fair accounting of the Atlanta fight in his book Sting Like A
Bee. In the first round, Ali had things pretty much his way, but things began to
turn after that. He was out of breath, was missing, and wasn't discouraging
Jerry at all. The average fan saw what they wanted to see - Ali beating up