January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|11/28/05 05:32:53 AM|For Your Info|Markham, Ontario||FYI@yahoo.com||||9|For Yor
Information: Cooper's article does make some valid arguments but also some
ignorant ones as well.I'll deal with the ones I disagree with
first.It's obviious that there's a lot of hate behind the article. This is
why it makes some out right unfair statements which unfortunately clouds the
many good statements made. I too feel that Ali is overrated. However I do feel
that Ali must be treated like all other boxers when evaluating how good he
is.For instance Cooper isn't going to say that Louis sucks because he
lost to Marciano at the same age that Ali lost his fights. Let's not forget he
lost to former light heavyweight Ezzard Charles when he was around 35. Louis
wanted to make a comeback at the title. Losing to Charles is worst than losing
to a 6'3 217 lbs very skilled Holmes in my book (not to mention Ali was
38).Marciano feasted on bums and past their prime fighters. Louis was
shot, Moore was like 40 years old and a light heavy to boot and Walcott was also
past his prime at 37. Even though Charles was only 2 years older he was very
battle weary and was slipping before he lost to Marciano. He lost some matches
before he faught for the title. Marciano also got a gift decision against
LaStarza. How Rocky won that fight was downright bogus. The fight was actually a
draw. One judge had it Rocky the other for Roland. The ref had it even. Here's
where the bs comes in. For some reason the rules were they had to have a winner.
For this reason they just gave it to the more popular Rocco. Fifty years later
people still say it was a bs decision. RL still thinks he won that fight. Rumor
has it that Marciano also lost to a complete bum named Ted Lowery in 1949 but
was given the decision. The crowd booed the decision. People believe that the
film of the fight has been purposly lost to spare the late Marciano
embarrassement. Besides those fights who did Marciano really beat? Louis
also got a gift with Walcott in the first fight. Years later he admitted that he
lost. Not to mention that Louis admitted that he had a regular "bum of the
month" schedual. Yet Cooper praises these heavys and puts down Ali. My
point is no boxer is without fault or has a clean record without some
controversy.|
|11/28/05 06:04:12 AM|For Your Info|Markham||FYI@yahoo.com||||9|For Your
Information: The article Cooper put up (he doesn't tell us where the source of
his info comes from) is filled with erronious arguments. I won't bother name the
different types.One error the article makes is to use age as a factor in
deciding greatness. If that were the case then Lennox Lewis is the greatest of
all times. While Ali, Louis, Marciano (remember HE QUIT at 32 after being decked
by an old light heavyweight!!!), Tyson, Bowe (remember him?)Johnson and many
more were done by their mid to late 30's Lewis thrived. The fact is Lewis peaked
later than others. That's what made him unique. For that he deserves his
due.This creates another problem however. If you're going to use age as
a factor than there's the other extreeme to think about. What about how they
faught in their youth? You see Cooper it can go both ways. While Ali,
Patterson and Tyson were winning and defending titles in their early 20's LEWIS
WAS STILL FIGHTING 4 AND 6 RD FIGHTS against the likes of Al Malcolm, Melvin
Epps and Bruce Johnson (???)!!! So now we can argue that Lewis is no good
because he accomplished much less at a younger age than many other boxers. This
is what happens when we use hate to attack other fighters. By doing so we can
discredit all boxers. From Ali to Sugar Ray Robinson. Let's not forget that SR
lost to a total bum named Roy "Tiger" Jones when making his comeback. Jones
never beat anyone of note. It wasn't a split but a CLEAR decision. Should we use
this loss to proove that he was an overratted boxer as well? He also lost TWICE
to a man who had brittle hands. Now don't go using the "over the hill" excuse if
we can't use it for Ali.Cooper there's no doubt that Ali is overrated.
It's just that I prefer to use the facts to speak for themselves. Not hateful
babble. |
|11/28/05 08:35:47 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|By age 36 Ali had fought many more