January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

efore was a very powerful body who's champions were recognized far beyond its
borders.That five other states, Mexico and much of South America and
other foreign countries, again part of the group that formed the WBC, recognized
this title shows this.Boxing historians also recognize this title as a
world title and Frazier was not the first fighter to have this title so it
wasn't created for him. In fact the NYSAC stripped Muhammad Ali of their title
just as the WBA had.Again, you can say Frazier couldn't take a good
punch, etc, but the fact remains his title was a world title just as much as
Ellis' was, which Frazier unified by beating Ellis in 1970, and he didn't lose
this title until he was beaten by Foreman in 1973.|
|9/16/05 10:47:19 AM|charles anderson|arkansas||ctjjandfam@aol.com||||10|larry
holmes deserves to be in the top ten heavyweights of all time. i dont know if he
could match up with ali, who i thought was faster and had a better chin|
|9/16/05 10:49:31 AM|charles anderson|arkansas||ctjjandfam@aol.com||||10|also, i
thought jerry quarry was the best counter puncher i ever saw, bar none!|
|9/16/05 11:07:02 AM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|I take Frazier over Holmes.
Holmes did not punch hard enough to knock Frazier around like Foreman did, and
as a result he would have a hard time keeping Frazier off him.Holmes jab
would work wonders for him during the early rounds, but he would tire as the
fight wore on. I take Frazier to stop Holmes in the late rounds, or win a close
but unanimous decision.|
|9/16/05 11:25:25 AM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|Some real good exchanges here
on Frazier-Holmes.Angelo, do you recall Stander's KO of Shavers?This is
important here because Shavers was the best guy Holmes ever defended his belt
against.Yes, you can say Joe was not taking on tough competition as champ,
and you'd arguably be correct. But there's no question who fought better
guys overall, who was tougher, and who wasn't afraid of rematches.Holmes
matches with Norton and Witherspoon were virtual draws. They demanded
rematches.Cooney won several middle rounds vs. Holmes. If you don't believe
me, watch the fight and check the scorecards yourself. He deserved a
rematch.Snipes had Holmes totally KO'd. Their fight went to the 11th. Again,
no rematch.Williams flat out owned Holmes. The scorecards showed a blowout.
No rematch again.That's five guys. That, and the caliber of opponents
overall as champ, suggest alot to me.Kent listed guys Holmes could have
defended with as well.Sorry, I have Ali tougher than Holmes. Frazier took
Ali to the edge of death. Frazier wins versus Holmes, who could show up fat on
occasion.Also, Frazier did not dodge the WBA tournament.He was actually
the first fighter named, according to the NY Times. He simply took a belt that
was offered, and as Kent has said, it was recognized in areas inside and outside
the United States.More importantly, Joe was better than anyone in the
tournament and that was proved with wins over Bonavena, Quarry and Ellis --- the
class of that tournament. To remove further doubt, he then thumped Ali. Joe
dodged no one. Thanks. |
|9/16/05 11:34:01 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|I just can't say how Holmes would
handle the Frazier of 8 March 1971 easily. Hey guys, that Frazier was a "beast"
! Ali' fought that night one of the best fights of his career but just couldn't
make (or do) it ! An in prime Holmes MIGHT have beaten that Frazier but with
lots lots lots of sweat! Again, I haven't seen Homes enough in his prime to have
a precise idea, but I have seen Frazier in his prime and if you hadn't Foreman's
punch you were in big trouble against him. I see Holmes-Frazier very close.|
|9/16/05 11:35:46 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Correction-I meant "I just
can't see how", and not "I just can't say"|
|9/16/05 12:07:38 PM|Italian Stallion|Philly||Unknown||||10|When the uneducated
are given too much information they mistake it for being an expert. Then begins
the helicopter effect. They hover over you spouting off comments based on
nothing and mistake it for wisdom. Bernard knows that these people make the
world foolish.|