January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

I've seen this on a British video commerating the fight and Reg Gutteridge
describes Ali's collapse.|
|1/7/04 10:39:21
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Yes, in fact
professional Ali shill, Don Dunphy made sure to tell everyone that Ali was "just
trying to escape the crowd in the ring," when he fainted. He stays down for a
little while, and even talks from the canvas. The brutal pounding he took, and
possibly the heat both had an effect. He commented that before the end, he felt
like fainting and throwing up, along with the "close to dyin'" remark. He looked
terrible after the fight. Not just the beaten up look - Frazier looked worse, as
he always did after a fight - but that intangible "something" when you know
there's something really wrong with someone.|
|1/7/04 01:06:08 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|RS-Are you sure you are not
getting Thrilla mixed up with Kinshasa ? I think that Mark is right while I was
partially wrong. Ali' collapsedto the canvas in Kinshasa, but he didn't in
Manilla. In Manilla he collapsed after the fight, before giving an interview.|
|1/7/04 01:13:20
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Massimo -
Yes, exactly. While his corner was grabbing him when Thrilla was
stopped, it also appeared they were sort of lifting him a little two - both guys
were dead - and it was shortly after that that he fainted momentarily, then
stayed down with his seconds fanning him with towels, and talked for a bit from
that position. I can't imagine what must have happened to both men internally,
from that fight alone.My husband has always subscribed to Playboy, and
they really do have some great articles and fiction, this month a good feature
on the great Johnny Tupia.|
|1/7/04 03:04:28 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Just for fun :Look at this
word : ANILINAWhat do you get if you write this word from right to left,
RS ?I wonder if in English there are words with such a peculiarity !
What do you have to say about RS, my ET ?|
|1/7/04 04:46:47 PM|Paul|Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Thanks Mark. My video
of the fight stopped a minute or so after Frazier's corner threw in the towel
and in any case before the so called Ali 'collapse'. People who have been
involved in contact sports would understand that sometimes you get a little
light headed shortly after the exertion or contact has ended. Your blood is in
different areas other than your head. It is a normal bodily response to great
exertion especially in heat. Marathon runners collapse when no one has punched
them. In Ali's case he returned to his corner unassisted after the 14th, rose
from his chair unassisted when told that Frazier's corner was pulling the plug,
and he was obviously ready for round 15. His 'collapse' (or rush of blood from
the head) was minutes later. The other thing that must be said is that if
Frazier's corner thought that he was winning, or a chance of winning, then they
most likely would have sent him out again rather than throw the towel in. As it
was, none of his corner argued among themselves as to the appropriateness of
that decision. Heads were down and gloves were coming off because they accepted
the situation was hopeless and in went the towel. Ali and Frazier fought for 44
unbelievable rounds and there was finally a definitive result as determined by
Joe's own corner. That was the beauty of the Thrilla - Joe's own corner became
the judge and jury. It is not possible to gtet a more definitive result. But Joe
has nothing to be ashamed of because he fought wholeheartedly for every one of
those 44 rounds. |
|1/7/04 05:25:02
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|"Able was I ere I
saw Elba." A word or phrase such as this, or what you mentioned, which is the
same read either way, is called a palindrome. Here's a web site on
them:http://www.palindromes.org/|
|1/7/04 07:23:17 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|I have on