January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

your credibility here. What was it you said about Foreman being a sissy or
something for not going more than 5 rounds? I don't think you actually imagined
he couldn't, either in his prime or recently. You are a piece of work,
Roadscholarette. You'd do well to listen to the experts here and try to learn.
(I am not an expert but simply a fan.) |
|12/4/03 01:28:13 AM|Evan B|Belfast||evanb46@juno.com||||10|Massimo, come mai
sarete scelti Papa con quell'atteggiamento? Quanto vecchi siete, il mio amico?
Quanti mogli e bambini? Scommetterò chepotreste ascendere a destra conoscete
e buttate giù Tyson!|
|12/4/03 02:46:48 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|A lot of the
time you don't have to 'fix' things to get a result. Foresight and manipulation
can do the trick. Plan the fight in a foreign country and incite the people into
frenzied support. Make sure it is a stinking hot country where your opponent
will not have the stamina to go the distance. Slacken the ropes a little. When
the fight starts lean on the ropes and get into your opponent's mind to sap his
spirit. Let him punch himself out. And when he finally shows fatigue, go for
him. Does anyone really doubt that Ali wasn't smart enough to manipulate such a
scenario ? Talking of fixing things, I remember a trick they used to do with
greyhounds. No need for drugs. Just tie the poor thing to the back of your boat
and then take it for a very long swim. That night when the finishing line is in
sight, it will start to think like Greg Norman and knock up very suddenly. You
can't swab for fatigue. Anyway, RS, I hope you are not serious with what you
said about Ali. The other thing I can't understand - if Ali needed to 'fix' the
Foreman fight to win, then why didn't he do the same thing with Holmes and
Berbick ? RS, thanks for addressing my concerns regarding Frazier's opponents.
Did you know that the first person to visit Norton in hospital after his
accident was Ali ? |
|12/4/03 07:06:46 AM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|Paul-Holmes was surely a
great champion, but he never convinced me completely. Who did he ever beat ?
Shavers ( he was a top contender only thanks to his power, nothing else), Weaver
( a guy with 215 losses in his record), Witherspoon ( a disputed win), Norton (
another disputed win ) . I rank him a step below Ali', Foreman and Frazier.
Anyway, I didn't see him in the ring when he was in his prime because I'm 31, so
I'm not sure of what I'm saying. That's just my intuitive impression.What do
you think about the following 2 matchups ?Lewis-HolmesLewis-Frazier|
|12/4/03 07:23:11 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Down here in
Australia, I'm working while the rest of the world sleeps (although some might
unkindly suggest that it is because I'm a burglar). Anyway, RS, you turned me
around on my thinking about Roberto Duran, so I deserve a last chance to change
your thinking on my favourite, Ali. In his career, Ali fought eight men who held
world titles (Moore, Liston, Foster, Patterson, Frazier, Foreman, Spinks, and
Holmes). He won 9 and lost 3 of those fights. Now look at the calibre of
opponent Smokin' Joe fought. He fought three world champions - Ali, Foreman and
Foster. Of those fights he won 2 and lost 4. So you must agree that Ali's record
has a better calibre of opponent. Longevity goes to Ali as well. Ali fought
often and anybody. Frazier didn't. Do you want me to prove that ? And you say
that Frazier didn't fight Norton because they were close friends. Okay. But Ali
and Ellis were close friends, too, and they had the same trainer. They fought.
Business is business. As I said before, I look forward to reading your posts and
you think 'out of the square' and that makes you very interesting for a
conservative thinker like me. However, I suspect that you were disengenuous on
saying that Ali is just a guy with a "block of concrete for a head" (or words to
that effect). I think you made a rash statement and, rather than back off, you
foolishly perservered. I'm an expert on foolishness because it's usually me
doing it ! Anyway, I am not trying to be offensive in saying this and I hope you
take it in the playful way it is meant. One more thing, RS, please give me your
opinion on who won the Leonard v Hagler in 1987 and why. I'll then give you my