January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

heavyweights. I struck by how articulate he is in the interviews and what a
bulldog he is in the fights. He always did a good job of adjusting for his
competition save for Frazier. He might have been well served to counterpunch
Frazier more and not spend himself on the attack. |
|8/23/05 05:50:50 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Noam, there is no reason
for you to leave.|
|8/23/05 06:06:07 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|JQ, as I've said before, was
very, very close to being a World Heavyweight champion. Yes, Ali and Frazier had
too much for him, but it still almost happened.I think he had way too much
too soon. He had 14 fights in 1965, but didn't start the year until mid-May!
I think he was rushed into Boyle, Alongi,and Machen, all of who he would
have beaten under more relaxed conditions, I think. Instead, he got three
draws and a loss.He got back on the horse and proved his talent after
that.But I will never quite get what happened with Ellis and Chuvalo. Those
two fights really skewed his career. I agree, he never dodged anyone, and
had the talent to beat anyone. It takes alot of confidence to challenge Ken
Norton on two weeks notice.But Quarry fans have to wonder what could have
been.Jerry and Mike were terrific to watch, they both should have had belts,
in my opinion.|
|8/23/05 06:22:43 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|I don't want to think my staying here
has anything to do with Steve, and Kent, not being here, because they are both
integral parts of the site. I apologized to Kent for things I shouldn't have
said and there's been no nastiness since Brandi's warning. I can't apologize for
Forest, though, as I truly think he did the wrong thing, especially with the
comments about Ali's health. But if my being here means that Kent and Steve
won't return, then I'll happily go because they are guys who should be
here.|
|8/24/05 02:00:23 AM|Ed|Cicero n y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Noam, Hope u decide
to stay here. You ever check into ebay for old fight magazines? They arent
expensive and give a different view from books because they're from the actual
time of the fighter, before they became legendary.
http://search.ebay.com/boxing-magazines|
|8/24/05 05:01:38 AM|Noam|same||same||||10|Ed - the sorriest thing I've done was
allow hundreds of The Ring magazines and other journals I had to be thrown out.
They were stacked high on the floor of a cupboard. At a time when boxing wasn't
high on my agenda, I let them go. I'd give anything to have them back now. The
only one I kept was the 20th anniversary edition of the Ali v Frazier first
fight. How stupid was I not to safeguard the rest of them.The best
boxing book I've read was on Rocky Marciano. It not only had boxing facts but
also stories about his family and friends. The book really flowed and put a face
to the legend that raw statistics can't do.I tried to read one on Jack
Dempsey and some day I'll finish it. But the way it is written is difficult to
get in to. Same with one I have about Jack Johnson. I have plenty about Ali,
however sometimes they are not really objective. I'm not saying this to agitate
with Fan who doesn't respect Thomas Hauser, but the best Ali book was 'Muhammad
Ali - His Life & Times' by Hauser. Each episode in Ali's life is told in first
person by those a part of it. For example, the Ali v Frazier fights were
discussed not only by Ali and his entourage, but also by Frazier in the first
person. Same with the Ali fights against Quarry. There was no room for bias
generally because each person who was a part of the story, told their own story
as they perceived it. The result was that it didn't sanitize Ali's life, as has
become more the practize than the exception. It had the good with the bad,
Farakhan, Black Muslims, etc. |
|8/24/05 07:33:11 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Noam: I
have some Ali books too. One that I really like, though it surely casts him in
the best light (biased), is a mid-70's paperback, "The Greatest, My Own Story."
I'll have to re-read it. There are some really interesting chapters and you