January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

another RS clanger a month ago. You posted that "Joe's left eye betrayed him in
the third fight." Fancy that. That wasn't a fair fight either. By some act of
God Joe's eye got injured. It had nothing to do with Ali's right fist. You wrote
that Foreman was a better boxer than Ali. Ali was just a showy punching bag. Ali
couldn't throw combinations, etc, etc. If this is what your brain spits out
about Ali, then you are better off speaking from the bottom of your heart ! It's
one thing to write legitimate opinion, but it's another to post silly inane
insults. Anyway, if Ali was such a bum, then what does that make your hero ?
Cheers.|
|12/18/03 11:28:16 PM|Gerry Schultz|Cleveland,
Ohio||jgschultz11@msn.com||||10|It's easy to concede Foreman could box to a
certain point, he looked very good stalking Frazier in their second match, his
best match in my opinion. But he was often troubled by good boxers, Peralta,
Young, Ali , others. Could George box? Yes, some. Was he a good boxer? No, it
wasn't what brung him there, as they say. He was big and he had the Hammer. To
say his boxing skills got it done for him is simply inaccurate. Sorry Road'ette,
Ali, who got away with a lot of crap in his fights, like laying on the ropes and
leaning away from his opponent, or excessive clinching, did a masterful job of
confusing and draining the non-boxer Foreman, who mindlessly chased Ali into the
ropes again and again and rarely got anything for doing so. Frazier could get
Ali off the ropes by going to the body and scoring, forcing Ali to fight.
Frazier was a better boxer than Foreman, both are punchers almost exclusively as
is Tyson. Tyson and Foreman did not have to face the music much in most of their
fights because of the fear they inspired and the power each possessed. Why would
they, like Shaq, develop the finess side of their games when being so one-
dimensional has brought them so far? JQ had to be a boxer to get where he did
because he wasn't a gliding 6'3" like Ali and he didn't have the Hammer that
punchers like Foreman/ Frazier/ Chuvalo did. Necessity breeds that kind of
growth. Foreman had a rack of KOs to show for being the biggest baddest puncher
in the ring, why would he turn Gene Tunney? It's like expecting Wilt to practice
his free throws. Foreman, like Liston, could not change his spots after Ali, the
consumate boxer who used psychology on the whole world long before rallying
throngs in Kinshasa and psyching Foreman into defeat like he did so many others.
Only Frazier saw Ali for what he was,if he had two good eyes he might have made
Ali pay in all three fights. Foreman wasn't that sharp, and he still isn't. |
|12/18/03 11:42:53 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio||jgschultz11@msn.com||||10|It might, or
might not, be worth mentioning that Ali psyched Jerry also for their second
fight, the way he complimented the Quarry women for their looks, he knew Jerry
was a fan and played on it, the same almost as the way Russell would invite Wilt
to dinner and butter him along with his biscuits so that his fire might burn a
little lower when it mattered. Ali was older when he gave Ken Norton his shot
and clearly underestimated Norton. Knowing Norton had his number, Ali turned to
other tactics, using his fame, the media, the clownish Cosell he so easily
manipulated. His fame beat Norton when he couldn't, then he dodged him. But he
couldn't dodge Joe, who saw him for what he was. He could only survive Joe.|
|12/19/03 12:19:39
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|citing anything
more than a biased hunch,>I'll get on the phone, and clear it up right
away! Can't promise as quick a result for J. Johnson's and Liston's tank jobs
though, since they're both dead."Joe's left eye betrayed him in the
third fight." Fancy that. That wasn't a fair fight either.>You said it,
not me! Ali fainted after the fight, for cryin' out loud, and wanted to quit!
Only Frazier's swollen eye stopped it. By some act of God Joe's eye got
injured. It had nothing to do with Ali's right fist.>Frazier always
swelled up. Didn't you know that? He beat Scrapiron Johnson 10 out of 10 rounds,
and looked like the loser! Even Bugner punched his eye shut. You wrote
that Foreman was a better boxer than Ali. >Better ~boxer~ as in