January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

is missing from the equation. Where was George Foreman? Wouldn't it have made
sense for Frazier and Foreman to have a rematch with the winner taking on Ali?
Ali had beaten both of these guys in 1974. I think a natural eliminator would
have been a Frazier-Foreman rematch, with the winner to face Ali. In fact, a
good scenario would have been Ali defending against Quarry in the same time
frame, and the winner of that fight would take on the winner of Foreman-Frazier.
Another option would be the winner of Foreman-Frazier against Ali and the winner
of that defending against Quarry. Gee, do you think Foreman ducked Joe like you
think Shavers did? |
|7/10/05 08:57:45 PM|steve |na||na||||10|Hey Kent,I remember talking to you on
the telephone.You are a natural baritone,or the type of voice that comes right
before it.Hence I dont think you could cover Jimmy Beaumont in his style.Perhaps
in your own style.I remember you said you are not trying to sound like the guy
whose song you are singing.You probably do alot of Beach Boys and Jan and Dean
material.I don't picture you as a Philly Do Wopper.Kent,on the East coast,you
must speak as loud as you can,because there are 10 MILLION PEOPLE PER SQUARE
METER OUT HERE!|
|7/10/05 09:39:51 PM|steve |na||na||||10|Noam,all I can base my opinion on is
what I actually have seen take place.Jerry Quarry did Knock out Shavers in one
round.I wouldn't have bet that way,but it happened.Joe Frazier did beat Jerry
pretty badly twice.I lost alot of money on the second fight.Shavers did manage
to hang in there with Ali,and give him a decent fight.Ali,however,was in control
all the way.He was never in any real danger of losing that fight.You
know,Shavers has this huge reputation.Who did he ever flatten in the top ten
guys besides Norton.Holmes got up and whipped him.Based on all this,I think
Frazier,had they met at thier peaks,would have had a very good change of getting
to Shavers early.I don't think Shavers was anywhere near as complete a fighter
as was George Foreman,who KO'D A much higher caliber of opponents over the lenth
of his carreer.|
|7/10/05 11:48:06 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Angelo, you
miss the point that Shavers, starting in Dec. 1973 with the loss to Quarry had a
bad year in 1974 and his marketability went down. I include the Quarry fight as
it came at the end of the year.He lost to Bob Stallings and had a draw
with Jimmy Young in a rematch and if I was Shavers management, I would have done
exactly what they did. Use the first half of 1975 as a rebuilding time, the
time you speak of. The losses to Quarry and Stallings and the draw with
Young showed he was not ready for the big time and he needed to regroup, hence
his management likely avoided Frazier at this time, not the other way around.
He in fact beat three unknown fighters in 1975 before taking on a world
class opponent, in this case Ron Lyle who knocked out Shavers in a slugfest in
September. A Frazier/Shavers fight at this time was also highly unlikely as
Frazier was preparing for his title shot, which happened in Oct of that year,
only one month after Lyle/Shavers. Shavers would have been ready for
Frazier after around the middle of 1976 when had had beaten quality opponents
Henry Clark (twice), Howard Smith, and Roy "Tiger" Williams but Frazier was gone
from the scene, except for his comeback verses Foreman and Cummings five years
later, fights that should not have happened.Frazier would have fought
Foreman if Foreman had beaten Ali in his title defense. If would have
made sense for a Foreman/Frazier title elimination fight to have taken place
sometime around early to mid 1975 but Foreman was not available and he took the
whole year off in 1975 after his tough loss to Ali. Foreman didn't fight again
until early 1976 verses Lyle (except for exhibitions such as his fight verses
five opponents). Since Foreman was not available in 1975 Frazier got his
title shot based on his win over Quarry in June 1974.Steve, I would do
the tune you speak of in a key that is right for my voice. Not only do I don't
do imitations, I can't as I am stuck with my own style, like it or not. Most
singers do not mimic well and it takes away from their performance. A voice