January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

the uppercut Shavers knocked out Ellis with in 1973...That punch was really
scary, I think it's a miracle that Jimmy Ellis' head is still on his shoulders !
Hell, that uppercut would have knocked out cold Ali', Chuvalo, Quarry, Carnera,
Spalla, Warren Coolidge, Hulk Hogan, Wilt Chamberlain, Andre' the Midget, Jim
Clancy...probably even Calvin Lane ! That punch would have killed most of the
people in the wordl, including Kent's friend in Boston (who is, by the
way,clearly wilter than Byron Stewart). |
|2/24/05 04:45:11 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Massimo:
Jim Clancy? You mean the 1970's pitcher for the Toronto Blue Jays?As for
Earnie's uppercut that took out Ellis---Ole' Jimmy's bells were still
ringing when he stepped in against Frazier AFTER Shavers KOed him. Lucky Joe.
Gee, Kent likes to point out that Lucky Joe took on the winner of Quarry vs.
Lyle then Quarry vs. Shavers (just so happened that Lucky Joe had already
knocked out this winner, our own Jerry Quarry, back in the 60's). Of course
instead of fighting the winner of Shavers vs. Ellis, Lucky Joe was fortunate
enough to "negotiate" to fight the loser, the one round knockout victim LOSER of
that fight, Jimmy Ellis.Lucky Joe, good ole' Lucky Joe.|
|2/24/05 05:19:43 PM|Steve|N.J.||N/A||||10|Sounds like Angelo and Howard C. have
gotten in the spirit of lively,informed debate,without taking it personally.To
coin a phrase from Angelo,"ain't it grand".We can debate Ali vs Frazier without
being called an Ali hater or a Frazier hater.Politics played a huge roll in the
saga of Ali vs Frazier.Thier troligy was a microcosm of the country tearing
itself apart over Vietnam and civil rights.You either hated Ali,or Frazier!It
went way beyond boxing.Now, almost 40 years later,I don't hate Ali,I see his
place in heavyweight history and acknowledge it. |
|2/24/05 05:35:03 PM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Angelo-No, I have never heard
of the Toronto Blue Jays, I meant that guy who talks often on the CNN. Don't you
get CNN over there in Washinghton ? I use to watch CNN every day, it's very
interesting and well done, even if I really don't understand why they use to
repeat over and over again the same 5 or 6 news for (or throughout) the entire
day. It's a very good training for my English and I'm getting better day after
day. They have been talking about the Pope's health conditions for many hours
today. Where is your home town Washington exactly ? I know that it is on the
east coast (very far from California, and this is no good) but in what state
is ? Maybe Idaho ? Maybe Washinghton ? |
|2/24/05 05:40:57 PM|Steve|N.J.||N/A||||10|Hey Angelo,what is your final point
in this seemingly never ending debate?Based on your last sarcastic post,I guess
you feel that Frazier and Quarry were very,very,lucky to have even gotten into
the top ten rankings during the seventies.Taking your logical arguement a step
further,Shavers,SLOW MOTION Ron Lyle,and Ken Norton,where probably better
fighters,who where robbed of their greatness by being ducked by Frazier.|
|2/24/05 06:40:30 PM|Fan|USA||yes||||10| I don't think Jerry hit as hard as
Shavers or Foreman. He really didn't have one punch knockout power against top
heavies. But I still think the Quarry of June 23, 1969, threw some bombs. He
vowed to destroy Frazier, and try he did; he let it all hang out for a few
rounds, including Ring's round of the year. Many fighters would have gone down
against that assault, but the Frazier of June 23, 1969 was barely fazed. I
agree that the Ali fight took a lot out of him, though he did quite well in the
next two fighs,especially if Ali was as great as many seem to think. They were
both close, so if Frazier was indeed washed up, what does that say about Ali's
performances? Just a bit better than an overrated bum, as many here seem to
believe of Joe? That's "The Greatest"? |
|2/24/05 07:48:54 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Angelo, the
second Ellis fight was a tune up fight he took to prepare for his title shot
verses Ali because of Ellis' similar style to Ali's style. The fact that Ellis
had lost to Shavers is not relevent as Frazier had already beaten the higher
ranked fighter, Quarry, who had beaten Shavers, to earn a shot at the title.