January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

this event if I planned it as I do have enough money to attend if need be.
So,you never know. It sounds like a great way to see a lot of big names and to
mingle with them.|
|5/8/04 12:18:23 PM|steve |N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Forrest Ward,I'll have
to dig out that Quarry vs Chuvalo fight again.My understanding was that Jerry
immediatly jumped to his feet after the knockdown.His corner yelled at him to
take a knee!He also stumble halfwaw across the ring before falling down.This
suggests someone caught off balence.He should never have taken the knee!|
|5/8/04 12:44:24 PM|Steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|Forest Ward,that
quote"fatigue makes cowards out of everyone",must be the worst,oxymorons ever
uttered!Total,extreme fatigue occurs when your body will no longer obey your
minds commands!Your courage is no longer a factor.Written by a football coach
who had been had been worshiped for to long.|
|5/8/04 08:14:37 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve:I
don't think Lombardi meant that literally. His point was that fatique makes you
lose the appearance of having courage, and the ability to react to situations in
a courageous way. It's figurative---and believe me, say what you will about
Lombardi, but his guys bought into all of it and that's why he was a champion
many times over. FYI, "Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." is often
attributed to Vince Lombardi. His actual quote was "Winning isn't everything,
but wanting to win is." He made a big deal out of the will to win more than he
did the talent to win. Sure, lots of Lombardi's motivational techniques are now
old cliche, but back then, his guys would go into combat for him like no one
else. I think about how it applies to Jerry Quarry---he didn't have the biggest
talent, but he had the heart to give it his all every time.|
|5/8/04 09:20:01 PM|Steve|NJ||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|That's exactly my
point.The words fatigue and coward don't even belong in that same stupid
quote.Coward is a very,very,strong word to use in the sports of football ,but
especially in boxing!I don't think either of our enterpretations of that quote
fits the bill for a post on Quarry vs Chuvalo.Maybe Jerry needed someone with
lombardi's motivational skills,but not in the Chuvalo fight!He was not fatigued
to the point where he could not continue.He was the victim of poor corner
advice.Especially in light of knowing you've got a ref. who favors the short
count.When guys are out on their feet today,they still alwaws take a standing
eight count!|
|5/8/04 09:56:43 PM|JQ fan|Vegas||Anon||||10| Quarry-Chuvalo was the first
fight I ever went to. Can you believe it was 1969 - Woodstock, Man Walks On The
Moon, the Miracle Mets? A friend couldn't make it so we sold his ticket to
a guy outside the Garden. He sat with us for about 5 rounds, then left to
collect from his bookie - he had bet on Jerry and he was certain that a TKO was
imminent. I remember Jerry ducking and countering Chuvalo all night long.
Look at the photos of Chuvalo's face, they are evidence of the boxing lesson he
was getting. While the film speaks for itself, it is by no means
dispositive of what occured that December night in Manhattan. It seems that
Jerry caught a bit of a shot, stepped back a little, then he went down. It may
have been a stumble, or a delayed reaction to the punch. But he got up
immediately and took a knee, and then either barely missed the count, or just
made it and got hosed by Clayton. It certainly appeared that he could have
continued the whipping he was putting on tough George. Everyone must know
that Chuvalo was not in Jerry's class; the result was an anomaly. But give him
credit, he never quit, and he put Jerry Quarry down, however briefly, a feat
accomplished by few. It has got to be the highlight of George Chuvalo's career,
and another example of "Hard Luck" for Jerry Quarry.|
|5/8/04 11:42:55 PM|Gerry Schultz|Ohio USA||jgschultz11@aol.com||||10|Some
interesting comments on some older topics. Hey, if new posters are going to add
their takes, we can comment again on these ' classic' topics, right? Nice
insight on Quarry-Chuvalo, Jerry was the better of the two, it's a big shame a