January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

in a brawl. He could take a punch and could hit harder than my
mother.Cassius Clay (he wasn't Muhamad Ali' yet, he still had his slave
name) outboxed and outquicked him in their first fight. I think Liston was badly
trained but still close to his prime in that fight, as he came from 3 straight
first round KO wins (Westphal, Patterson twice).|
|6/16/05 05:05:13 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|I have seen Davide Tua's comeback
fight against Griffis. Tua looked good. I think Davide is probably the only real
threat to Vitali Klitschko's title (I said "probably" because I was thinking of
Kent Appel's best friend). Tua is a great finisher and can throw a flurry of
devastating punches. Tua-Tyson around 1996 would have been another Ron-George !
In a Vitali-Davide fight I would bet on Vitali cause he is so much wilter than
Davide and has a longer rich, but this would be a dangerous fight for Vitali.
It's really impressive how heavy David Tua is ! He makes Mike Tyson look thin.
What an explosive fighter Tua is !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|
|6/16/05 05:47:00 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Angelo-Ah, I have also seen
the Liston-Harris fight, but that was not a fight, that was a walk in the park
for Sonny !|
|6/16/05 10:14:15 AM|Joey|Canada||aol||||10|MASSIMO, you should check out the
LISTON/MACHEN fight and also LISTON/MARTIN(Sonny goes down for the count in that
one).|
|6/16/05 11:08:47 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Joey-Carlo Liston was 72
years old when he lost against Martin ! Anyway he was way ahead on
pointswhen he got hit ! I think that Machen was afraid of Liston and fought
to survive, a very defensive fight. It's not easy to look good when the other
guy doesn't want to fight...|
|6/16/05 12:12:57 PM|Theodore|San Jose||tedfish2@hotmail.com||||10|Everyone
seems to think that the decade of the 70s was the high-water mark for the
heavyweights. However, my feeling is that this perception is based more on the
events surrounding the major fights of the 70s rather than the fighters
themselves being any more gifted than the fighters of other eras. Leading up to
the "Fight of the Century" (Ali-Frazier I), you had two undefeated champions.
Although both fighters had faced many top ten challengers (same as Tyson did in
his heyday), only Liston as an opponent might have been considered to be
exceptional. What made the fight so interesting to not only boxing fans, but to
virtually everyone at the time, was the fact that the loud-mouthed draft-dodger
Ali represented the anti-Vietnam war crowd, and Frazier represented the
conservative red-neck crowd. The country was in turmoil from the war and these
two fighters became symbols. Anyone who is old enough to remember, remembers
that the fight was played in movie theatres for months after it had already
taken place. Joe, of course, won and was considered a great champion. But then
only one fight later the Olympic Champ, Foreman, dribbled Frazier around the
ring like a basketball for two rounds before the fight was stopped. So, now
Foreman considered almost invincible. Meanwhile, Ali had lost to Ken Norton. As
such, Norton was considered a worthy opponent for George. But George then easily
crushed a terrified Norton in two rounds. At this point everybody is saying
Foreman is greatest ever, and people don't want Ali to fight him because they're
afraid he'll kill Ali. Then when Ali beats Foreman, Ali is now raised to
mythical status. Of course Foreman twenty years later became the oldest
heavyweight champion at age 45. Hmmm....so, maybe Ali and Foreman were the
greatest fighters ever. But wait!.......Foreman relied on his punching power to
regain the title, and punching power is the last thing to go. An in-prime Tyson
may have been just as good as an in-prime Foreman or Ali. Actually boxing is a
cruel sport and I don't know why I'm writing this stuff.|
|6/16/05 12:16:08 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|I have seen many Liston
fights. Whitehurst II, Bethea, Williams I, II, Harris, Machen, Westphal,
Patterson I, II, Ali I, II, Zech, Bailey, Rush, McMurray, Clark, Scrap Johnson,
Martin, Wepner. Liston was very similar to Tyson in terms of demeanor. They