January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|8/23/04 01:33:08 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Not being a saint
myself, nor do I have much hope of becoming one, I ask this question: if Frazier
does hate Ali (and I am not sure if he does or not), can anyone really blame
him? If I were in his shoes and took the years of abuse he did, I probably would
too. |
|8/23/04 01:35:20 PM|Timana|Auckland||same||||10|Actually, Forest, I was very
patient with you.Go back through the posts and you will see that we were
debating the facts. Your logic was flawed and I pointed that out to
you.And then, rather than correct your logic or move onto sensible
argument, you came up with that disgusting and cruel little anecdote about
Frazier.So I called you a gutless moron which, under the circumstances
of your cruel jibe, was entirely appropriate. I say it again; you are a gutless
moron.Gutless because rather than have yourself saying such a cruel
thing about Ali you put the jibe in the mouth of Frazier. And a moron because
anyone who thought that anecdote was clever (as you obviously did) is plainly a
very big MORON.Since then, Kent has asked you to source your anecdote
about Frazier. You haven't done so. It is becoming clear to someone like me, who
only just began visiting here, that you are the king of gibberish.Every
site has one. Usually they are not as ridiculous as you, though. |
|8/23/04 01:42:50 PM|Timana|Auckland||same||||10|So, John, hatred is
good.Ali said some things 30 years ago, obviously to promote the fight
and put bums on seats in arenas, and we should hate him for it three decades
on.Hate him so much that we poke fun at a medical condition that makes
him shake uncontrollably, etc. That is SERIOUS hatred. Has to be much
more to it that calling Joe an Uncle Tom. Seems to me that poor sportsmanship is
more likely the case. Joe and his apologists never forgave Ali for
winning.Never forgave Ali for the way he won, either. Stopped Joe in
their last fight. Ouch ! And since then the world has loved Ali and Frazier has
got no recognition.The result: the Frazier apologists blame Ali and hate
him for it.|
|8/23/04 02:02:00 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|No, hatred is NOT
good. And I NEVER SAID IT WAS. It is however, a human emotion, in some cases an
understandable one. In my opinion Frazier is one of those cases. My experience
with that emotion has taught me that it usually does more damage to the person
doing the hating rather than the recipient of it. |
|8/23/04 02:18:22 PM|Forest Ward|New York City||NYC.com||||10|Timana, since you
ducked the question, I will ask you again. When someone disagees with you, you
attack them personally. Who gave you the right to call me names? Also you read
into things that exist only in your head. John Gerard, never said or inferred
that, "hatred is good." You are not a polite or reasonable person. Believe
me that is not inferred from your posts, but rather very apparent|
|8/23/04 03:16:11 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Forrest has
always taken the high road in the debates on the board---and I think we all
should.It's okay to think someone's opinion is wrong, and make some strong
statements to that affect---but let's not get personal with people posting here
unless it's very deserved. I think the real fun of the board is the fact that
we disagree on a lot and express it all in a healthy way. |
|8/23/04 03:20:41 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Timana, I am
not sure why Forest has rubbed you the wrong way. I sometimes agree with what
he says and there are other times when I don't agree with him but it is not
personal. The same thing with John. I have no problem with these guys because I
treat them fairly and they do the same to me. I thought when you came here you
were reasonable. I hope my first impression is still the case.I too
think that if Joe still has bad feelings against Ali, and I am not sure if this
is the case, it would be understandable.I am not sure either why you
interpreted John's comments to say that he thinks hatred is good. Again, saying
you understand why someone hates someone is not saying this is a good thing.