January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

name fighters.|
|6/16/05 10:09:55 PM|steve |na||na||||10|Angelo,why in the heck are you so angry
about Joe Frazier's career?Leotis Martin finished off an already obscenely old
Liston.Would Frazier,Quarry,and Foreman have to have taken turns beating that
old guy up to be legitimate contenders to you? Your philosophy seems to be,that
to be a great champion,you have to bend over backwards,make financial
concessions,to make sure you beat everybody in the top 15 rankings.|
|6/16/05 10:26:02 PM|steve |NA||NA||||10|Angelo,not to revisit a sore
subject,but do you honestly think Liston had anything left after the first Ali
fight,in what,1966?|
|6/16/05 10:37:14 PM|Steve|na||na||||10|Hey Angelo,say what you will about the
longevity of a career,but wow,Frazier sure had plenty left for Ali in the
"Thrilla in Manilla",didn't he?|
|6/16/05 10:54:28 PM|steve |na||na||||10|Massimo,I disagree with you about Eddie
Machen.I watched him box and counterpunch his way through a loss to Liston.I
also watched him box and hang on to a young Joe Frazier and survive for ten
rounds.He gave Frazier the nickname,"Smokin Joe".He took a young Jerry Quarry to
school.He was a pretty darn good little heavywieght. |
|6/17/05 03:07:27 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Angelo-I don't know much
about this Tom Bethea. I have only seen a sinthesis of his fight with Nino
Benvenuti which Nino won with a great left hook in the eight
round.Steve-I agree that Eddie Machen was an EXCELLENT, if not
GREAT, fighter of the 50's and 60s. His record was fashinating and amazing ! I
was referring to something Sonny Liston said after the fight about the way Eddie
Machen fought. I have seen only a sinthesis of the Liston-Machen fight and was
pretty boring. In maybe the best performance of his life Ingemar Johansson
knocked Machen out in 1 round.|
|6/17/05 04:04:41 AM|Massimo |Las Vegas,Ne||1||||10|Yesterday night I saw the
Krasniqui-Withaker fight and it was impressive how easily Krasniqui dominated
and eventually knocked Lance out cold ! Lance "Mount or Goofi" Withaker is
really a big guy. At 6'8" he is two inches wilter than Ernie Terrell and just
once inch andreer than Kent's friend from Boston and weights 115 Kg. That fight
showed me one more time that being big means nothing in boxing if you can't
fight. Eddie Machen at 6', 190 lbs would have literally played with this bouncer
! Now Krasniqui will fight Lamon Brewster for the WBO heavyweight title.|
|6/17/05 10:27:01 AM|Joey|Canada||aol||||10|"Joey,I respectfully disagree that
Joe Frazier,Ron Lyle, and Jimmy Young where not big name
fighters."STEVE, I was suggesting that JOE FRAZIER was the only big name
that GEORGE FOREMAN beat.LYLE and YOUNG were excellent fighters but when I
refer to big names I can list them as follows; JOHNSON, DEMPSEY, LOUIS,
MARCIANO, LISTON, ALI, FRAZIER, FOREMAN, HOLMES, TYSON, LEWIS(I'll include
him)...let me know guys if I left any out.|
|6/17/05 10:45:45 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Steve: I'm
not angry about Frazier's career---but just exposing the fact that many, many
heavies with reputations as big hitters never ended up in the ring with him and
I'm just curious why. All of us Ali fans have a little unfair anomousity toward
Joe---I admit that---but I think pointing out these ommissions from his fight
schedule is totally fair and not based on anger. It just seems like so many of
these guys we've discussed fought against eachother, but he managed to fight
only two of them, Foreman and Ali, and had a combined record of 1-4. I believe
Frazier does belong in elite company, but not top of the top, just because he
had Ali's number (and was still 1-2 against him). |
|6/17/05 01:05:24 PM|Steve|na||na||||10|Angelo,I respect your opinion as always
being logical and only being slightly biased towards Ali.That's okay with
me.Your allowed to have a favorite fighter.I have to agree with you that Ali was
probably the all time best.I'll tell you what,though,his number one status was
held on to by only a razors edge. |