January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

opinion. Be warned - I have a very firm belief. Massimo, does 'consigliori'
really mean trusted advisor in Italian. Evan B - you were right when you posted
that Massimo was the most 'honourable man' on this site. He is. Cheers.|
|12/4/03 07:29:53 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Massimo - I
really gotta go to bed as it's getting late here. I'm 46 and I need my sleep. If
you don't mind, I will get back to you on the questions you asked. I am going
away early tomorrow morning (hence the need for sleep) but I will be back on
Sunday afternoon, and I will reply then. Quickly, though, if Holmes hadn't made
THAT 'jockstrap' comment about Marciano, he would have been a lot more
respected. But, gee whiz, he won 49 times in a row against the best on offer.
What more could the guy do ? Take care and I am sincerely hope that Evran is
hanging in there.|
|12/4/03 09:52:20 AM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|Paul-I look forward to
reading your opinion about Holmes. What do you think of Frazier's wins against
Eddie Machen, Doug Jones, Buster Mathis and Doug Jones ? Very good wins, in my
opinion ! Ellis was so desirous of winning the Ali' fight that he said
"I don't care if I never win another fight as long as I live if I win this one,
I lived in the shadow of Ali' too long"." Consigliere" means " trusted
advisor".|
|12/4/03 09:54:29 AM|KOOKOO|NY||KOOKOOCLOCK000@YAHOO.COM||||10|MASSINO , YOU ASK
IF FRAZIER COULD BEAT PRIMO, I KNOW THIS WAS AJOKE QUESTION. I FELT SORRY
FOR PRIMO, HE WAS USED IN THE BOXING GAMEBY CROOKED MANAGERS, IT WAS NOT
RIGHT, CONCERNING FRAZIER, I RESPECTHIM, BUT FEEL HE WAS OVERATED IN BOTH
PUNCHING POWER AND TOUGHNESS,HE COULD BE HURT WE SAW THIS IN THE 2ND ALI
FIGHT, THE STANDER FIGHT, THE BUGNER FIGHT, HE DID NOT WANT ANY PART OF SHAVERS
OR LYLE. SHAVERS FORSURE WOULD HAVE KNOCKED HIM OUT. NOW GET IN THAT KITCHEN
OF YOURS ANDFIX ME SOME SPAGGITTI AND MEATBALLS. KOO KOO |
|12/4/03 10:39:24
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Ass-uming all of
Ali’s fights were on the level, ;-) he was a great ~fighter~ not a boxer. I’ve
seen a lot of younger fighters beaten who tried to imitate his style, with
disastrous results. I agree with Eddie Futch: Ali was ridiculously fast, he was
hard to corner, you couldn’t follow up on him (Futch didn’t say this, but it’s
true), he threw tons of punches, disrupting his opponent’s rhythm, and anyone
who underestimated his heart or chin placed themselves in harm’s way. However,
he threw arm punches, often from crazy angles with no leverage, he pulled away
from punches, he never went to the body, he was always upright, had a great jab,
straight and overhand right, countered well, had a decent left hook, no right,
and not much of an uppercut; his repertoire consisted of mainly three attacks –
a jab, a lead right, and a one-two jab, straight right. My reference to being a
professional wrestler was to call attention to his theater and his faults to a
degree, but also to point out the cerebral side of boxing, a far greater factor
than just getting is shape and learning to fight, which anyone can do. Mailer
was a super fan who came up with some cool observations sometimes, but when you
listen to him, always realize that Norman is endlessly and hopefully projecting
~himself~ into the ring when he writes or talks about a fighter.Massimo
–Primo was a giant, powerful man, but I don’t believe he would have been
a match for Frazier. Joe was hard to hit, took it well when he was, forced
others to hurry and fight his fight, which was usually reacting to him and
trying to survive. He punched non-stop, and would have been in under Primo in a
flash, in close. I can’t see Carnera being able to handle a fight in a phone
booth.Paul –Fighting Ali in Africa was akin to fighting Duran in
Panama City or Galindez in Buenos Aires. Second career Foreman could have
handled it. Young George could not.|
|12/4/03 10:56:28 AM|Fran|PA||plc7755@aol.com||||10|Ali was a money machine for
many people. In order to win the title he had to go through Foreman as it was
his time. Ali needed help to steal the fight. Can anyone explain what you could