January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

(L.R.R.P.) aka (LURP'S) aka (Ranger's), Steve is the real-deal a real, (Shooter
and Looter) and i would trust him with my life. Steve, see you at tomorrows
meeting............, |
|8/1/05 04:34:08 PM|Steve|nj||na||||10|Kent,I hope you didn't misinterprete my
post as saying you where a draft dodger or a pompious sports writer.Vietnam was
A fight you had nothing to do with.I was referring to Howard Cosell as a loud
mouth,arrogant guy who ran his mouth alot about things he had little knowledge
of ,like boxing and football.I expect you to disagree with me.You usually
do.This does not deminish my respect for you,or your knowledge of boxing.MAYBE
Pro football,after all,your from the west coast,and clearly are biased against
the Eagles,whom everyone in the country seems to hate! Am I coming off as
paranoid?|
|8/1/05 04:39:40 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Gee Fan, you're a hard guy to get some
sense from. It's pretty easy to make the allegation against Hauser and his
books, but it's much harder to prove it. When put to the test, you've got
nothing to say. No proof at all. Oh well.I have some interesting
statistics (and hopefully my maths is good). In his career Joe Frazier fought 37
fights, 214 rounds (or 10.7 hours). Ali fought 61 fights, 546 rounds (or 27.3
hours).Frazier was knocked down 11 times, which equates to a knockdown
every 19.45 rounds or every 3.3 fight. Ali was knocked down 4 times, which
equates to a knockdown every 136.5 rounds or every 15.25 fights.None of
the 11 knockdowns Frazier suffered were contested. Two of the 4 knockdowns Ali
had were contested (the 'slip' against Banks and the one against
Wepner).Ali's statistics are truly remarkable. He sustained a broken jaw
early against Norton and never went down. He fought monster punchers like
Foreman, Shavers, Lyle, and also Mac Foster, and wasn't knocked down.If
you say that the Wepner knockdown doesn't count, then realize that in his
'second' career', Ali recorded only one knockdown (against Frazier fight 1). He
therefore had one knockdown in 32 fights. In the last 29 fights he fought there
were no knockdowns (if discounting the Wepner one). He fought 352 rounds leading
to retirement without being knocked off his feet.Just to repeat: Frazier
was knocked down every 19.45 rounds on average; Ali every 136.5 rounds. Now, if
we're going to say that Frazier was great, and wow he had courage, then what
does that make Muhammad, given he fought ALL the monsters of his era. |
|8/1/05 05:16:41 PM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|Noam, don't you get bored
answering Fan and Kent. Let them have there fantasies, They are old timers. They
feed of each other. Lets move on. Noam, how do you rate Sonny Liston?|
|8/1/05 06:24:10 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Noam, read the book I asked
you to read then respond. Once you do it will be obvious to you that Hauser was
more than just a writer for Ali. It's the overall book not just one page and
I'm not going to start arguing points of a book with you that you haven't read.
It will be boring and useless. If you decide not to read the book then let's
just say we have different opinions on Hauser. Hauser is good writer, who
admits he has a soft spot for Ali in that actual text. I'm not going to comb
through the 200 something pages to find it for you. |
|8/1/05 06:32:33 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|The book should be on
regular shelves in the next two weeks.|
|8/1/05 06:49:11 PM|steve |NJ||NA||||10|Noam,what the heck are you,some kind of
colledge statatician who can do math and even spell and do correct grammer and
stuff?Liston,dude, are you trying to intimidate me?Well,you have!!! Now, give me
the courtesy of listening to this post.I asked a question on this site!I asked
for a criterion on what makes the toughest fighter .Please get off your running
gun fight about Frazier ducking opponents.If I decide I want to spend time
reading Houser,I most probably will.Can't you let go of that subject long enough
to actually contribute to this site by answering a legeminate boxig history
question?|
|8/1/05 07:06:26 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Steve, don't let Noam