January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Frazier, Foreman, Dempsey, Holmes, Louis and probably Marciano and Tyson are the
excellent ones. Some of the good ones are Jerry Quarry, Ken Norton, the young
Floyd Patterson, and so forth. For average, we might include Riddick Bowe or
Lennox Lewis or maybe someone like Jimmy Ellis. Now we get to weak and poor,
where we find Oscar Bonavena, George Chuvalo, Alfredo Evangelista, Joe Bugner,
Ron Lyle, and others. Then there are hundreds of heavyweights who somehow got a
license and fought bouts, winning some and losing others, but never even
headliners. A good heavyweight on a great night might stand a chance against
an excellent one on a poor night. Otherwise, though, there is little chance an
average fighter like Riddick Bowe would beat an excellent fighter like Ali or
Frazier. It could happen, and there have been big upsets, but it's so improbable
as to be ridiculous to discuss. After all, could Roger Clemons strike out Ed
Kranepool? Yes, and usually would. Over the course of many games, would
Kranepool ever take Clemons over the center field wall? It could happen, but
would be highly unusual. Could we please knock off all this speculation over
whether Joe Bugner or Tommy Morrison could KO George Foreman or Joe Louis on a
big night? As far as I'm concerned, it's a waste of breath. You folks know too
much about boxing to fritter away your time in these pointless discussions of
what weak boxers might have done. My opinion only and no hard feelings, OK?
And yes, I was just too sentimental to admit it at the time, but when I went
to Ali-Norton II, Ken did win a decision but was robbed. It was close but not
that close. One more thing. You should all know before coming to this web
site that boxing is historically the most corrupt, sleaziest, most lowdown and
cheatin' sport of all. In fact, the most dishonest sports are, in order: 1.
Boxing2. Boxing 3. Boxing4. Boxing 5. Boxing 6. Cock fights
7. Roller derby If you don't believe me, ask any former pro boxer,
or sports writer. Furthermore, boxing rankings are 99.9% pure hokum, false, jive
and dishonest. Promoters use them to hype boxers. How many times have you seen
a young heavyweight with a record of 7-0 against bartenders and chickens and
corpses suddenly ranked #9 one month, then #6 the next month, and finally at #3,
signed to fight whoever the champ is in that organization? It happens regularly
and has forever. That's how lousy fighters sometimes get big fights, and how
lousy fights are promoted. Remember, like most businesses, boxing promotion
is done to earn money. Niceties like fairness, truth and justice are usually not
part of the picture. |
|9/3/03 04:24:52 AM|Massimo|Rome||.com||||10|Tubby-You are very right about
the Tyson-Sapp fight !Mike Tyson has to fight serious boxers like
Rahman,Tua,Briggs,Akinwande, the Klitschko brothers, Samil San etc. Sapp is just
a fat clown ( as a boxer, of course). Clifford is another clown ( as a boxer, of
course). He has to train every day, not once a year ! I have read that Sapp real
height is 6'3", not 6'7". I hope Shaq's height is really 7'1", not 4'2" ! Tyson
better than Norton ? I'm not sure ! How could you judge Lewis an average boxer ?
Are you joking ? He is a champion, surely one of the best 20 heavyweights of all
times. How could you judge Bonavena,Chuvalo, Bugner and Lyle weak and poor ? I
have to repeat the question: are you joking,Tubby ? Have a nice time !|
|9/3/03 07:56:43 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|TO TUBBY: If you
think Ron Lyle fell into the "weak and poor" category I must question your
knowledge of boxing or the criteria you use to judge fighers. He was very good.|
|9/3/03 08:03:45
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Tubby -The
bottom line is that any boxer who has had even a few
pro or very active amateur fights has already begun to incur some
brain damage…no matter how
undamaged he may appear.***Everyone knows or has heard about someone who
has been enormously messed up from just one blow to the head in an accident, so
in truth, it's a miracle more boxers aren't actually killed in the ring than
are. All have damage, even ones who don't show outward signs, and all punches