January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

equal Rocky's 49 nil record) thought should be given to including that one as
well. |
|8/4/04 06:32:39 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||9|With regards to Mike Tyson, some
of the recent criticisms here have a familiar ring to them. There are those who
think Tyson didn't beat anyone during his reign or that Douglas was his defining
fight or that he failed to seriously contend after. Very unfair and inaccurate,
guys. Tyson's first few years were epic, but he couldn't fight everyone. He went
to jail for a crime he did not commit, he lost valuable years. His fights with
Holyfield, a virtual " good vs. evil " were rigged, even allowing Holyfield
headbutting. He was stripped of his license for a while, remember? He is the
most used, exploited athlete I've ever heard of. You know, this site is
dedicated to a guy who had some of the same criticisms. After he beat them, how
good were Thad Spencer, Buster Mathis, Ron Lyle and Earnie Shavers? Suddenly,
not very. By your estimation, JQs "defining" moments were his first two losses
to Ali and Frazier, also not a fair statement. People want to pile on Tyson when
he's down. He twisted his knee, guys. He was clearly winning before it happened.
Let's drain off some of the venom and call it a little more fairly for Tyson and
others. If I can, you can too. |
|8/4/04 11:32:29 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10| Also, Joe Krause, a very good
"best of" list for fights, tough to improve upon, thanks. I feel good looking at
that list and knowing I've seen most of those matches, all worth seeing again. I
very much also like Quarry-Lyle, Quarry-Patterson 2, as both are clinics,
Bonavena-Frazier 1 also. I'll try to think of some more ... Frank, very
insightful piece on Ali, very thought provoking. I find no fault with Ali the
fighter, who fought everyone and fought so well. Norton was the only guy I saw
him flinch from, Ali was stripped for not fighting him. But the politics of it
are too much to digest. He enraged Frazier to such a degree, I had to root for
Joe, who gave such a great effort against a better opponent. Joe's career does
have some holes, but he was very blue-collar likable, not some unapproachable
demi-god whose words were weapons. This, again, is why there are two Alis to me,
the boxer and the renegade. I'm not a sworn enemy, that is too much work, just a
guy with an opinion on this very famous man. Still, you make some great points,
very good read... I'll take Young, Witherspoon, and Shavers in the matchups,
thanks.|
|8/5/04 07:10:10 AM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|I agree with Gerry on
Tyson he was a victim of the hype like Ali benefited from it. Regarding the most
exciting fights the only way I can see how you could leave off Quarry Foster or
Quarry Shavers is that you didn't see it. Those were the 2 most exciting fights
to see live during that whole era. As far as the boring fights look how many
were of the Ali clinch n hold era. |
|8/5/04 09:59:34 AM|Evren|London||@||||10|Remember - Curtis Hatchetman Sheppard!
What a fighter - what a story. He once kayoed Joey Maxim - steel chin in one
round, Beat Gus Dorazio, beat Charley 'Doc' Williams in 1 round. Read his
story!|
|8/5/04 10:31:40 AM|Evren|London||@||||10|Try this : -
www.cyberboxingzone.com/boxing/wail1000_rocky.htmLet us
know..|
|8/5/04 01:17:25 PM|Observer|US||Irrelevant||||10| Saladin(arabhero@aol), I
guess your screen name says it all. Regards to Richard I. Peace to all
(including you and Ali).|
|8/5/04 03:14:18 PM|Bob Bumbera|renfbera@aol.com||NC||||10|Gerry, how were
Tyson’s fights with Holyfield “rigged”? Do you know someone who was involved?
Were they the same people who rigged the Ali-Foreman fight? I’ve had the same
opinion of Tyson for a long time now. After he lost to Douglas, I just passed
it off and figured he would regain the title. He went to jail instead, and he
did lose his peak years. However he never had “it” after that, whatever the
excuse might be he was not as focused in the ring as he was before prison, and