January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

75% of the time, Quarry would have taken Ellis in that era (late 60's). I don't
know if it was the back injury, an off night, or something else, but the failure
to follow-up on that late round punch that shook Ellis cost Jerry a piece of the
title. Frazier would have beaten Jerry to unite the title, but Jerry would have
still been a Champion. Watching that fight frustrates me to no end---almost to
the point that I expect a different outcome every time that punch lands. It's
hard to believe that Ellis got off the hook. The shocking part is that Ellis
didn't do anything brillant to survive, it was just lack of follow-up by Jerry
to put Ellis away.Ellis was a nice fighter, but in my opinion, didn't bring
as much to the table as Jerry. I wish they had a later rematch. |
|3/11/05 04:50:20 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Has anyone
here actually seen the Frazier-Jumbo Cummings fight? I ask because Boxing Times
magazine listed it as one of the top 20 "most controversial draws" in boxing
history. The fight took place in 1981, when I was really following boxing----
but for some reason, the whole thing escapes me. I knew there was a draw, but
didn't know anything was that controversial about it. What happened? |
|3/11/05 05:53:35 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Most reports
said that Cummings should have gotten the decision. I never saw the fight
either though.|
|3/11/05 07:51:16 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|ForestThe book I read on
Rocky was simply titled 'Rocky Marciano' and was written by Everett M. Skehan.
The foreward says that it was written with "family assistance by Peter, Louis,
and Mary Anne Marciano". It was a very easy book to read and one of the
most enjoyable and informative on boxing I've read. The book tells in a very
simply way about what Rocky the man was like. I've begun to read one on
Jack Dempsey, but it is harder to get into. I'll persist. Dempsey's upbringing
as a child was so hard and deprived that it's a wonder he survived it. On the
score of toughness, he'd kick all our butts.I think Cloverlay was good
for Frazier and there is no doubt that they saw him as a commodity, while
leaving the duty of care bit to Yank. Cloverlay made lots of money from the deal
and I understand Joe eventually considered that they were taking too much from
his pay packet.The contract expired just before the second Ellis fight.
Joe says that he didn't want it renewed because they were taking too much money.
An alternative view (and I'm not trying to be unkind here) is that Cloverlay
realized that Joe was all but a spent force.By the way, in last month's
Ring Magazine there is a photograph of Frazier posing with a very good looking
blonde model. Joe's dressed in all black with a black cowboy hat on. He looked
well which, despite my thoughts on his career, is very good.|
|3/13/05 04:05:20 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|I CAN'T BELIEVE IT ! THE GREAT
MUHAMMAD ALI' GOT HIS ASS KICKED BY KEN NORTON. I think now he should retire, he
is not going to get his title back. Everything is possible but against George
Foreman ? So big, so strong, so young, so fearless ? Against George Foreman who
knocks his opponents out one after the other one (I mean "uno dopo l'altro")in
less than 3 rounds ? Not very likely !|
|3/13/05 04:08:01 AM|Smokin'Joe Frazier|Philly,
Pennsylvania||legends@lefthooks.com||||10|Aaaah, happiest day of my life
!!!!!!!!!!! That trash talking wimp got his ass kicked !!!!!!!Weren't you
the GOAT ( greatest of all time )?|
|3/13/05 03:55:08 PM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Noam - that
last posting of yours was a real conversation stopper. Nobody posted for days
after your enthralling contribution.Massimo - Smokin' Joe never called
anyone a wimp. He called them "scamboogahs", whatever that means.|
|3/13/05 05:28:44 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Howard C.-Scamboogah is
something between chump and wimp.|
|3/13/05 07:02:48 PM|"Irish" Kent Appel|The Dublin section of La Habra,
Ca||topofthemorn.com||||10|Hey Smokin Joe Frazier, did you avoid fighters like
Ron Lyle, Earnie Shavers, and Mac Foster because they were big punchers? I say