January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

prevails so I lean towards that it didn't happen.|
|2/16/05 01:38:21 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|You don't have to be
either a Frazier or an Ali fan. You can be both, there is no rule against it.|
|2/16/05 03:52:34 PM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Regarding hard punchers-Doug
Jones hit and stunned Clay in 1963 in the first round. Maybe Diego Jones is
underrated as a puncher. Clay's win was well deserved, but still Jones gave him
one hell of a fight. Joe Frazier knocked Jones out in 1967.|
|2/16/05 04:28:17 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent:
You're correct that losing to Foreman was not a disgrace, and Fraizer gave it
his best shot---no shame in that. I'm wrong for characterizing it as a
disgrace, though it was a one-sided beating by a challenger who most didn't
think would win. I do stand by my belief that Ali made Frazier and Norton. Ali
is a combined 4-2 against these guys---all pretty close fights---yet in my
opinion, Frazier and Norton would never be household names if not for Ali. Wins
and losses against Ali gave these two most of their fame. If you eliminate
these six fights, Norton and Frazier would have been good heavyweights: Frazier
a decent champion and Norton a great opponent---both slammed by Foreman. Also,
without Ali in the picture, maybe Frazier and Norton would have had to face guys
like Lyle and Shavers earlier and it's my opinion that there would be a few
losses there for Frazier and Norton. But hats off to Joe---he was a courageous
champ who pulled off the win over Ali and was the loser in Manilla---still the
alltime best heavyweight title fight for my money. Norton? His loss to Holmes
was one of the top 5 greatest heavyweight title fights. Many believe that Jimmy
Young was rooked in the split decision loss to Norton. If it were Young who
advanced to be named Champion, to defend against Holmes (who beat Shavers in the
ABC televised 12 round eliminator), who knows??? Young as Champion might have
successfully defended against Holmes---history would sure be different if that
happened. |
|2/16/05 07:32:03 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|How come when
we get to debating boxing issues and no one takes offense to the disagreements
but gives his opinion and takes differing views respectful, that the
knuckleheads, ie, Koo Koo Clock, Looney Tunes, Foolface, The Muffinman, or any
other clowns of the like don't show up here?Could it be that most of the
time, these folks won't or can't debate boxing issues on a boxing site?
Also, whatever happened to that Dr. Patterson who showed up here and
made some challenging statements about banning boxing but never showed up again
to defend his positions after some of us responded to his challenge?|
|2/16/05 09:22:58 PM|Steve|N.J.||N/A||||10|Hey Howard C.,I agree that any
professional fighter who assaults a women, child,or any civilian is not an
exceptable member of society.However,the allegations against Joe Frazier have no
bearing on his accomplishments in the ring. Many fighters have fallen into
alcholism or mental instability after thier careers are over.That's sort of what
this site is about. After a lifetime of training and trying to destroy your
opponents,a form of P.T.S.D.probably sets in.|
|2/17/05 02:16:04 AM|Howard C.|Louisville||howardc@louisville||||10|Yes, Steve,
you are right. I shouldn't have mixed Joe Frazier's (alleged) assault of a woman
in his private life with his professional career as a boxer. I agree with your
comments and those of Noam, too.Sometimes it's hard, though. People
regularly discuss Tyson's antics out of the ring, but I suppose that is an
exception, given he always seems to be in trouble. He also introduced those same
character flaws into his boxing with the biting and other disgraces.But
you are right and it is unfair to speak about Frazier in those terms. Joe is
alleged to have done one bad thing outside the ring; Tyson's a serial offender.
And Joe wasn't charged; Tyson was.I'll stick to Joe's boxing.|
|2/17/05 09:06:36 AM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|Prosecutors in
Philadelphia dropped assault charges against former heavyweight boxing champion
Joe Frazier on Tuesday after the alleged victim refused to