January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|8/21/04 06:15:46 PM|Timana|Auckland||same||||10|MasimmoForest was just
being sneaky. Rather than have the courage of making the point of his little
story himself, he has it coming from the lips of Frazier.Forest was
giving endorement to the message conveyed in that cruel story. Had he disagreed
with it, he would have said so by criticising Frazier for saying it.He
could have told that same story about Jerry Quarry, given his injuries. Imagine
the uproar.The truth is, Forest is a gutless moron. A couple of days ago
he attempted to argue logic about Frazier's career and that was fine. His logic
was flawed, however, and I pointed that out to him.For instance, Forest
said that can anyone imagine for a second that Young would beat Frazier. I
pointed out that I could imagine this as Young beat Foreman and Foreman twice
stopped Frazier. My point was that nothing can be taken for granted.But
Forest doesn't come back with sensible debate. He couldn't admit he was wrong
and he couldn't persist with such a ridiculous argument. So he instead
comes back with a childish and cruel anecdote about how Frazier demeans a
parkinson disease sufferer by imitating symptoms and facial
expression.The heart warming pitch of the story was that Frazier was
delightedly taking responsibility for turning Ali into the ill shell of a person
he sadly is today. Imagine the hilarity, Masimmo. Frazier shaking his
hands and fingers imitating the tremor that the sufferer can't control.
Frazier's face contorts into an expressionless blob doing his best to look like
Ali when the disease has him fully in its clutches. Hilarious, don't you all
think ? So, if Forest thought this was wrong, he wouldn't have told the
story or at the least he would have told it and then criticised Frazier for
doing it.But that's not Forest's style. He sneakily puts it in there so
that the ridicule comes from someone else and not him. Masimmo, you
don't have to clap and cheer something to give it your support. Just tell the
story and don't criticise it. Forest never quite came to terms with
the fact that Ali is admired by much of the world, both professionally and
personally. But if he wants to understand why Frazier never reached those same
heights, he need only keep repeating the cruel story of Frazier poking fun at a
parkinson disease sufferer. It was wrong of Ali when he was a young man
to imitate punch drunk fighters. I won't argue otherwise. But it is quite a
different thing for a 60 years old man like Frazier to be doing the same thing
today. The hatred Frazier demonstrably has for Ali can only mean one
thing: he knows that Ali really gave him a whupping and he'll never forgive him
for it.Frazier apologists like Forest have the same motivation. |
|8/21/04 08:09:51 PM|angelo|dc||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Rather than criticize
Forrest, who is a solid contributor to the board, I'd rather stick to saying
that if his report is true, Frazier is a sad person, and it's Frazier who is the
moron. I'm sure Frazier and his remaining hangers on (all two of them) get a
good laugh from impersonating the suffering Ali, except for the fact that 30
years after their fights, Ali is still very relavant---lighting Olympic torches,
being featured in multi-million dollar corporate commercials during the Super
Bowl, having stars in Hollywood make movies about his life, and the list goes
on. Meanwhile, Frazier makes news by being accused of battering a woman. Well
folks, that about sums it all up. I guess the bitch wasn't listening.|
|8/21/04 08:19:13 PM|angelo|dc||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Also, on the topic of
Foreman's career being a waste of talent---I don't agree. Foreman, in his first
incarnation, was a hulking power puncher, and he used this ability to its
maximum, working his way to the title shot, then humiliating Frazier. He
defended against Norton, who was considered a strong challenger because he had
beaten Ali, and of course he defended against Ali, who beat him. But Foreman
continued to stay busy and tried to get back to a title shot. He tested himself
by taking on Ron Lyle, the big hitter, and overcame knockdowns to win. Then, he
takes on a guy, Jimmy Young, who clearly had a style that could give Foreman
trouble. In fact, I picked Young to win that fight. Though the win over