January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

too think Duran presents a powerful argument for being the greatest fighter
ever. He was fundamentally sound, he could hit like a mule, he could take a
punch, he didn't ~get~ hit, some had as much of a killer instinct, but no one
more, he could move, feint, parry, bob, weave, corner a man, and could finish.
He knew how to get out of trouble, and how to weather a storm. His footwork was
exemplary, and he was almost always in top shape.The second Leonard
fight has some 'splainin' to do! Leonard was a superbly talented fighter, but
not more so than Duran, and certainly not as much as what we saw that night;
Duran looked ridiculous, bordering on Cobb-Holmes or Wepner-Ali, and we know
from his career before and after that fight, and from his first fight with
Leonard, that that wasn't the case. I believe the first fight is a better
indication of their comparative abilities. I doubt this killer, who'd been
fighting since he was four years old, quit just because he was being beat. As I
say, unanswered questions...|
|10/23/03 01:50:49 PM|Fran|S.E. PA||PLC7755@aol.com||||10|I throw out the 2nd
Leonard Fight. The first was both of them at thier best. Duran was in terrific
condition hungry and was able to out manuever a razor sharp former Olympic
champ. The second fight was either a case of Duran being sick in body or mind or
both. Leonard was a diferent generation of fighter than Duran and a bigger
fighter should have beaten a former lightweight champ who should have been in
decline. But Duran was hungry fined tune and Ready. I'll never forget watching
it on Closed circuit it seemed like Duran was on top of Leonard as soon as
leonard got up off his stool. It was like they threw him from Duran's Corner to
Leonards when the bell rang. That was one of the biggest fights of the century
at the time it was like Frazier Ali one and after the fight Duran Partied. He
wasn't ready for the 2nd fight. Leonards people knew it. They were both ready
for the first and Duran won...... |
|10/23/03 02:23:57 PM|max hord|fernandina bch,fla||rasluc@msn.com||||10|Paul,I
have to agree with Dundee on his all time greatest.Wonder why he doesn't include
Duran?|
|10/23/03 03:54:07 PM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|I don't think
it is as simple as "throwing out" a fight that badly tarnished Duran's record.
Angelo Dundee describes Duran as having "three weapons - a left hand, a right
hand, and his head." According to Dundee, before the first fight Duran incensed
Leonard with his rude, arrogant manner, and he even insulted Leonard's wife. He
says that Leonard lost his cool and the result was a defeat for Leonard. And
Leonard can't remove that fight from his resume. Regarding the second fight,
Dundee and Leonard went to the weigh-in wearing false beards (mimmicking the
unshaven look that Duran chose to make him look tough in trying to intimidate
opponents). They were showing their contempt for Duran. Dundee also says that
Leonard was bigger and stronger and that Duran noticed this during the "stare
down" when the referee was giving instructions. He says that Leonard negated all
of Duran's "bullish tactics" causing frustration and that Duran eventually
looked "ordinary, pedestrian." Dundee believes that Leonard got to Duran
psychologically, just like Ali got to Liston psychologically in their second
fight. Whatever the case, you can't pretend it never happened. |
|10/24/03 02:58:23 AM|Massimo|Rome||y||||10|I have the tape of Leonard-Duran 3.
I know that Duran was 38, but that was a very disappointing performance by "
hands of stone". I threw 1 serious punch in all the fight, in the eleventh round
!!|
|10/24/03 03:22:27 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Massimo -
Italy are going okay in the World Cup Rugby Union in Australia. They are not
'kicking ass', but they are holding their own. Here I was thinking all you guys
in Rome could only play soccer and eat spaghetti and look good in Godfather
films. By the way, the posts of Fran and RS are very informative. You two are
deep thinkers, your posts are always well considered, and I look forward to
reading them. Also, your presence has made Koo Koo Clock behave himself. I think