January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Ali' and Frazier wasn't close to be so hard ! RS, WHERE ARE YOU ? PAUL IS
GONE, NOW EVEN RS IS GONE ! THIS SITE AIN'T THE SAME WITHOUT YOU TWO !|
|4/15/04 02:21:36 PM|Pete|Cleveland||@thegym||||10|"Who is to say Frazier's
title, before he fought Ellis, was any better than Ellis'
title?"(QUOTE)I wouldn't say FRAZIER'S title was better than ELLIS'
title, Kent, but FRAZIER was "THE" most significant heavyweight on the scene at
that time. If you saw him demolish GEORGE CHUVALO...well it was apparent that he
was well on the way. FRAZIER made the right decision by staying out of the
tournament. It created an extra pay day for him, although I found the tournament
quite interesting, particularly when SPENCER floored TERRELL."WHAT I
MEAN IS THAT FRAZIER CLAIMING BEING CHAMP BY BEATING ELLIS IS A JOKE
"(QUOTE)Who else was there for him to beat KK? He was the best
heavyweight at that time, with the only exception being ALI who was forced out
of the ring during the peak of his career. ALI/FRAZIER '68 would have been a
great fight to have seen. Both fighters would have been at the top of their
game. I'd put my money on ALI!!! |
|4/15/04 03:04:46 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Smokin' Joe
was a great warrior, but if Ali never went into exile---a 1968 Ali would have
boxed circles around Frazier and in my opinion, would have won a fairly easy
decision. The fact that Ali had ring rust from three years of inactivity, then
minimal rounds of tune-ups, and STILL fought Frazier closely tells me that if he
was never away from the game, he would have beaten Frazier decisively. The most
amazing part of Ali's career is that for all his accompishments (too many to
list), the BEST THREE YEARS of an athlete's career were not even in the mix for
him.|
|4/15/04 07:53:40 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Massimo, it
doesn't surprise me that Bugner says his fight against Lyle was his toughest
fight. Lyle was a very strong fighter. It shows Bugner, who has been said to
not like boxing a lot, has a lot of courage to last the ten or twelve rounds
with the injuries he said he had. It takes a special kind of individual to
become a boxer, especially one at the top of the sport where the opponents are
all experts at dealing out tremendous punishment.Even in losing efforts
Lyle could dish out a lot of brutal punishment. In one of his decision losses
to Jimmy Young, Young left the ring with red welts on his sides caused by
Lyle's body attack. I am sure even in victory Young was hurting for quite some
time.|
|4/15/04 11:32:48 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||10|UNTIL FRAZIER
BEAT ALI IN THAT 1ST FIGHT HE WAS NEVER REALLY CHAMP, LIKE ALI SAID, THEY SAY
FRAZIER IS WORLD CHAMP IN 3 STATES, THATS A HELL OF A SMALL WORLD, FRAZIERS
OVERATED BY ANY STANDARDS, MATHIS , BUGNER, NO THREAT TO FRAZIER OR ANYONE ELSE
:) DON'T MAKE ME LAUGH MORE THAN I ALREADY AM:)))))))))))))))))))))))|
|4/16/04 08:49:22 AM|Pete|Cleveland||@cobohall||||10|Say what you will about
FRAZIER, but without him, ALI'S return to the ring would not have been tested.
ALI/FRAZIER 1 & 3 were historically important and great entertainment, as well.
ALI'S first professional loss and ALI'S affirmation as a great champion. The
"THRILLA IN MANILLA" finished them both, unfortunately.|
|4/16/04 12:07:20 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Koo Koo,
Buster Mathis was a good fighter who at 6'5" tall and 245 pounds was the size
of all of the fighters you say would kick Joe Frazier's butt. Remember, you
think this is way too big for Joe to handle. Mathis was a good boxer who had a
decent punch and he was at least as good, but probably better than Michael
Grant, Jameel McCline, Lou Savarse, and maybe even better than Wladimir
Klitschko, now that we now Klitschko cannot take a punch. All these again are
examples of the giant fighters you think would destroy Joe because of their
size. Yet, Joe wore down Mathis on the way to stopping him in the 11th round.
Mathis fought well in this fight and in fact won probably the first three rounds
and he was even on one of the scorecards when he was knocked out.If you