January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|11/4/05 08:36:24 PM|Steve|nj||na||||10|Hey
KENT,Massimo,Angelo,JimmyDorsey,Thanks for keeping a modicum of logic and
sensible posts on the true,not always agreeable,career an mistakes made by the
QUARRY HANDLERS,.|
|11/5/05 03:36:14 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Hi Steve, welcome back, it's a
pleasure to hear from you!|
|11/5/05 04:59:01 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Angelo, one of Ali's daughters
launched a book she's written on Parkinson's Disease and she commented that her
father's health has deteriorated. It's sad, given that he's only 63, but there's
lots of other sufferers, too. The disease isn't all that uncommon, even among
non-boxers. Makes me wonder whether Ali was always going to get the disease, but
boxing just accelerated the onset and he got it much younger than most.|
|11/5/05 11:37:05 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Nice to see
you back Steve. Yes Jerry's management made some mistakes, one was rushing him
too fast, tough fights, too soon. But he was a very well schooled fighter with
excellent boxing skills so his management and trainers did some very postitive
things also.|
|11/7/05 07:42:27 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Noam: It's
possible that the Parkinsons was destined to afflict Ali, in his late 30's/early
40's, had he been a boxer, a dentist, an author or a balloon salesman. It's
possible that like Michael J. Fox, Ali would have gotten Parkinsons no matter
what. My personal opinion is that it was in his genetic code to suffer from
Parkinsons. Believe me, getting hit in the head hundreds of times by people
like Earnie Shavers, Ken Norton, etc., didn't help matters. But I don't think
boxing is solely responsible for Ali's health problems. I tend to agree with
your post that maybe the onset happened sooner because of the physical stress he
was under, but we'll probably never know. I wish there were advanced procedures
and medications that could help Ali.|
|11/7/05 09:43:04 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Kent: By
rushing Jerry, which fight(s) are you referring to? Machen? I know that a lot
of people point to the Machen loss as uneccessary---that Jerry should have been
brought along further before going in against a tough veteran fighter like
Machen. But didn't Jerry already have about 20 fights under his belt at that
point? I know that he had only been fighting professionally less than two
years, but he had managed to fight nearly 20 times and didn't have a loss. At
some point, you have to give a fighter a test to see what he can do. If he
wins, you move ahead. If he loses, you reevaluate, regroup and start again.
Don't get me wrong---for example, putting Marvis Frazier in against Larry Holmes
was silly. For one, Holmes was the baddest heavyweight in the world, bar none.
Frazier was inexperienced, and he was put in against the best heavyweight, not
just a good one. Secondly, the bright lights, big crowds and nationally
televised, prime time event should be reserved for someone who has the
experience to handle it---someone who has been there and done that. Granted,
Marvis had probably seen it all before as a youngster, with his Dad fighting for
the title and in big money fights. But it's another whole deal when you're the
one. But I don't think Eddie Machen was an outrageous opponent selection for
someone up and coming with almost 20 fights. Now, the draw against Doyle might
have clued them in to work a little more before stepping up in class, but still,
I don't think it was terrible management. Also, it did accomplish getting Jerry
in the mix with name heavyweights like Patterson---getting him primed for the
tournament as well. Jerry might have been managed more carefully, but his
biggest mistake was being part of the same era as Ali and Frazier. |
|11/7/05 04:42:59 PM|Kent|Murrieta, ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Angelo, the
two draws with Tony Alongi, a man with over forty fights that Jerry fought
before Machen when Jerry was barely 21 years old were also a clue he was rushed
too fast.That Jerry had already had the Patterson fights, the Spencer
fight, the Ellis fight as well as the Machen fight all by the time he was only