January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

asketball team at the end of the regular season, you have to start from the
beginning and play through the tournament to prove it. You can't wait for all
the other teams to knock eachother off and only play once to earn a title. But
that's exactly what Joe was able to do in the world of boxing. I will say on
his behalf, he did take on some of the talented guys who fought in the
tournament as time wore on, and he beat them. |
|9/21/05 03:44:38 PM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|Angelo, you got it all wrong. It
was not arrogance on Frazier's part. It was good business sense. This is not
college basketball, or amatuer boxing. This is professional boxing Frazier was
not fighting for medals he was fighting for money. "SHOW ME THE
MONEY."If Frazier fought in that Tournament he would have eliminated all
his viable challengers for future fights by winning that tournament. By staying
out of the Tournament he was able to fight Bonevana, Quarry, and Ellis for a lot
more money than he would have got if he fought them in that Tournament.I
hope we can now put this WBA tournament nonsense to rest and move on.|
|9/21/05 04:03:33 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Pete:
That's actually a very good point about Frazier wiping out his future paydays
all for the tournament. I hadn't thought of that. He was able to win the title
and still have some of these guys to defend against. Still, I think his
participation in the tournament would have been better for boxing and also
better for his legacy. But you are correct, it was good business sense----I
can't blame him for looking out for his financial future and taking care of his
family by having title defenses later on against guys he would have probably
whipped in the tournament. |
|9/21/05 04:43:51 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Pete - the only reason we're still on
the subject is that you demanded that I answer your question about it. When I
didn't, you again told me to answer the question. So I did. Now you're demanding
that we get off the subject because it's boring you. Heaven forbid ! I'm
scratching my head. If you've got no more questions Pete, let's move
on.Massimo - some time ago a question was asked of you about the longest
serving title holder in the history of boxing in Italy. The answer was
Gianfranco Rossi and you didn't know it. I was shocked that a student of the
brutal artistry like you didn't know that about your own country. What's going
on ? Do you only know the heavyweights ? You knew more about Bud Spencer than
you did Gianfranco Rossi !|
|9/21/05 04:46:06 PM|Gerry|Cleveland||same||||10|It can be construed as
arrogance on Frazier's part, sure. The guy sure proved his point in any case.
Given that he also soundly beat Ali, Joe proved his worthiness as a champion
during this period with any question...I was reading about Mr. Tyson, who
recent visited Chechnya and Kiev, Ukraine. His tour guide in Kiev was none other
than Vitali Klitschko. Was good to see Mike in a good light for a
change...I'm still trying to understand how a guy like Rahman can lose to
John Ruiz. Can Rahman box?Klitschko-Rahman is still the best heavyweight
match on the radar. No wonder I'm here talking about the good ol'days. Thanks.
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|9/21/05 10:34:08 PM|Kent|Murrieta, ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Pete hit the
nail on the head regarding Frazier and the WBA tourney guys. After all, as Pete
says, this is professional boxing. The fighters are in it to make money and
Frazier's managment gave Joe the chance for bigger paydays by not entering the
elimination tournament.Rahman is an enigma, one time he can look good
and next time he "stinks up the joint." Rahman verses Barrett really
stunk and the reason Rahman gets to fight Vitali K, is because he stunk less
than Barrett.Today I had my half hour private karate lesson followed by
a one hour walk and some swimming laps.I have lost about 3 inches on my
waste but today I got weak (after my workouts) and I had a very big hot dog with
cheese, french fries, and a regular coke. My weigh in day is Friday so I hope I
didn't wipe out my progress for the week in one swoop.|