January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

Rocky retired was to get out of a contract with his manager. The interesting
thing that i never heard before was that he was going to fight Ingomar Johannsen
(sp)if Big Ingo won rematch with Patterson. Sugar was asked why he didn't fight
Patterson and Sugar didn't really have an answer. Rocky would have been in his
late 30's for the Johannsen fight but it sure would have been interesting.|
|1/2/06 03:21:05 AM|Ed|Cicero N Y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|I saw a thing on tv
about the top 10 heavyweight champs and one of the guests, Bert Sugar, gave an
interesting triva tidbit about Rocky Marciano.He said the main reason
Rocky retired was to get out of a contract with his manager. The interesting
thing that i never heard before was that he was going to fight Ingomar Johannsen
(sp)if Big Ingo won rematch with Patterson. Sugar was asked why he didn't fight
Patterson and Sugar didn't really have an answer. Rocky would have been in his
late 30's for the Johannsen fight but it sure would have been interesting.|
|1/2/06 04:22:25 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Ed, my guess
is that Marciano didn't want to fight Patterson was because of Patterson's
speed.Rocky knew he had slowed down and that in his late thirties it
might be harder to keep up with Patterson's quickness but that Ingo would be
right in front of him and Rocky thought he could take Ingo.An in prime
Rocky verses Patterson, no contest for Rocky. His power would catch up with
Floyd's fragile chin sooner or later.|
|1/3/06 03:39:39 AM|Ed|Cicero N Y||mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Kent.I
always wondered why there was never a Patterson/Marciano fight, say in 1955 or
1956. It would have been a huge draw. Maybe the way Floyd put away Archie Moore
so easily kind of made Rocky think twice about it. I agree with you that Rocky
would have won but with Floyds speed who knows. And at that time nobody had
tested Floyd jaw yet so that weak link in him wasn't known yet.I think
Patterson is underrated as a champ. The 2 fights with Liston were diasters but
he fought many other tough fighters and did very well.|
|1/3/06 04:09:36 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|I know that after the Archie Moore
fight Rocky said:" If an old fighter like Archie Moore could give me so much
trouble, maybe it's time to give up. This has been my last fight". He was very
determined not to fight again. I think he had no good reasons to fight
Patterson, he was already in the legend, wealthy and still in good health.
Anyway, I think he would have beaten Patterson in 1956 by KO.|
|1/3/06 11:50:36 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Patterson
would have given Marciano all kinds of trouble in 1956, but Maricano would have
caught up to him and dropped him with a KO in the middle to late rounds. I
can't see Patterson knocking out Marciano, so it would be a matter of Mariano
taking a lot of punishment for a while---waiting to dish out some of his own.
In the end, when the heavy leather started to land, I feel Patterson would be
game, but knocked out rather convincingly. |
|1/3/06 05:26:56 PM|Kent|murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|The rematch
between Patterson and Ingo happened in 1960 so Rocky would have been very rusty
and a Patterson fight at that time would have been more difficult.Ingo
was the better match up for him because of styles and it made more sense at that
point and time.Why would Rocky risk ending his undefeated record at that
late date by fighting someone as quick as Patterson?|
|1/3/06 11:01:02 PM|Ed|Cicero N Y||Mooseygoop@aol.com||||10| "Why
would Rocky risk ending his undefeated record at that late date by fighting
someone as quick as Patterson?" Kent,Thats true about a 1960
fight with Patterson but its kind of a plus for Patterson, that Rocky thought
enough of Patterson, to skip a hugh payday in say 1956, against Floyd. A lot of
fight fans consider Rocky the greatest ever and to have the greatest ever
reluctant to fight you....well its complimentary. (Keep in mind that Rocky was a
fanatic about money, understandably as he grew up poor.)|
|1/4/06 10:05:10 AM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Ed: That
old saying about styles making fights is true---and even though I'd pick