January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

go by the old "Could Foreman beat such and such fighter on a given night?" and
use that as the basis for where he's ranked, he'd be top five. But I think
you're evaluating his career, and as you said, what he actually accomplished,
not what could have been. In that context, I still think he deserves to be top
ten. He had a good won-loss record and beat a number of good fighters both in
his first and second careers. When you combine the two, you get a very nice
won-loss record and some good opponents as well. I'm a big Ali fan, but I'll be
the first to admit that Ali lucked out when Jimmy Young took Foreman out. That
did away with any notion of an Ali-Foreman rematch and I have to say, by '77,
after a lot of fights, including the Manilla match with Frazier, I don't think
Ali had enough left to defend against the younger Foreman. Ali was able to hold
off Norton and Shavers, but I think a focused Foreman, in top condition, would
have had too much for Ali. If Foreman had gotten past Young, or not taken the
fight, history would have been very different. I think he, not Norton, would
have been in line for Ali. Interestingly, in an interview with Bob Costas a few
years ago, Foreman said he's not so sure he would have won a rematch back then.
He said he was stubborn and stupid and would have made the same mistakes he did
in Zaire, trying to kill Ali and punching himself out. Somehow, I think he was
being too hard on himself. I think he would have sat back, watched Ali do the
rope-a-dope, and motioned for Ali to come to the center of the ring and fight.
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|8/23/04 01:55:20 AM|Timana|Auckland||same||||10|GerryYou wrote that you
"have no doubt" that Ali mocks Frazier in "private moments."How can you
possibly be privy to such information ? What evidence do you have that Ali is
mocking Frazier in private. Answer: you have none; you are guessing.The
fact is that since 1975 when they last fought, all Ali's public comments about
Frazier have been dignified and graceful. If my memory serves me right,
he even praised Joe to Frazier's son Marvin immediately after fight 3.Ali
has not said one bad comment about Frazier since 1975.The problem is
that Frazier apologists like you don't have the guts to admit that Frazier acts
without grace or dignity. Instead of criticising Frazier for his disgraceful
actions, you instead turn it around and say that Ali is doing the same
thing.Ali's not my favourite fighter, but since 1975 he has always
praised Frazier. There's more bs from you and Forest than there is in a convey
of cattle trucks.So tell us, Gerry, what has Ali been saying about
Frazier in private ?Visitors to this site must wonder what type of
creeps are regulars here. They read about Gerry and Forest defending the 60
years old Frazier childishly and cruely ridiculing a person with brain
disease.How do you guys get your kicks ? Going down to the local spastic
centre and throwing rocks at the patients ?Frazier's and his apologists
are just poor losers. Get over it guys; it's over 30 years since Ali stopped him
in Manilla ! Show some class. |
|8/23/04 01:56:46 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|What are the
sources of Joe making fun of Ali's condition? How do people here know what Joe
says in private moments with his friends? Was there any press coverage of this
or are some of you just going by someone told someone, who told someone, who
then told someone? If the source is, I know someone who knows someone who knows
Joe, then I discount that information as not being very reliable. Has Joe said
anything in public interviews that he is glad Ali is damaged? I don't remember
any such statement.Come on folks, show some proof. Too many times
people make statements without any kind of proof behind the statement.|
|8/23/04 05:14:33 AM|Timana|Auckland||same||||10|KentForest quoted
Frazier poking fun at Ali's medical condition a day or so ago. Sounds like
something Frazier would do, given his well documented hatred of Ali. I'll give
you a few quotes from Frazier's book soon, too.Gerry says that he has
"no doubt" that Ali mocks Frazier behind closed doors. Seems a bit strange
because Gerry doesn't sound like he is some fly on the wall. For 20 years Ali's