January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

thought it was all about athletics. Shoot, if I had the chance to make millions
fighting someone three times, I couldn’t have cared less if he was the star! In
a best of seven, as in other sports, I'd see a see saw between Ali and Frazier,
or even Ali-Foreman and Ali-Norton. One'd win one time, the other the next. I'd
say Frazier and Foreman would win more best of sevens than Norton.A
young Ali vs. a young Frazier. Joe may have had a better chance, but 8 out of 10
times Ali beats Frazier. It's not that I don't have any respect for Joe...he has
always been one of my favorite fighters, but I also can't see a prime Frazier
beating a prime Tyson, Joe was a slow starter and needed a few rounds to get
into the groove. Tyson was always a fast starter, especially when a guy is right
in front of him, which Frazier would be. Joe might slip a few punches but but
Tyson's greater speed and power would would put joe on the
deck...early.>I see Frazier’s hand speed as second only to Ali’s,
Tyson’s after Holmes’s. Ali and Quarry both went for Joe fast, and Frazier woke
up. In close, JF had no peer. Tyson might have won a round or two, but then fear
would set in. I’d see Tyson unraveling, if he was still up, inside of five
rounds. A slightly less than "prime" Frazier was staggard early by Ron
Stander several times and Tyson is a world away from Stander. >I wonder
if Frazier even trained for Stander? Stander was probably just as tough as
Frazier (though a bleeder), but not anywhere near as good an athlete. The latter
doomed him, not his heart. His wife said he didn’t even quit drinking beer when
he was in training for the title!I'm watching the Ali-Wepner fight, and
before there are any comments on how Wepner knocked Ali down. It was Wepners
size 13 left foot that dropped Ali, not a right to the heart.>Yes,
that’s what I hear! Wepner and Cobb were two more who were just as tough or
tougher than anyone they fought. They just weren’t good enough.|
|9/27/03 11:01:45 PM|J. Truax|Hiding Under Your Window,
TX||jttruax59@aol.com||||10|Koo Koo, you are a stupid and ridiculous flamer and
probably a weeny wagger, too. Dempsey fought and whipped the greatest boxers of
his day. The rules then were more savage. The referee did not protect a fighter
standing up after being decked, and the other fighter could stand right over
him, as Dempsey did. He was twice as ferocious as Tyson and had twice the killer
instinct of Quarry. His intensity was at least equal to that of Frazier. Dempsey
used to train by shadow boxing and hitting a bag while standing under a low
plywood "ceiling", to get used to fighting from a crouch. He went the extra mile
by doing things like soaking his face in brine, to toughen his skin. Yes, any of
the 1960s-1970s really excellent fighters (from Ali to Foreman to Frazier on
down to Holmes) might have beaten Jack, or Tyson might have -- or he might have
beaten them. Just because someone fought in an earlier era does not mean he was
inferior to later fighters. Jack Johnson would have held his own against
opponents from any age. Koo Koo probably thinks Dempsey was no good because he
was white. Some of you seem hypnotized by Joe Frazier. Yes, he was a great
fighter, but no, he was not Superman. He took way too many punches and wasted a
lot of energy with his "smokin'". He was also a dirty fighter -- all elbows and
forearms and butts. Although he had excellent skills and was a great champion,
he also depended greatly on his own voodoo legend from CloverLay and all the
stories of him starting out too fat to pull on his jeans, so he goes to the gym
to work out and lose weight, discovers he can fight, etc. With this colorful and
impressive jazz going on, and Joe being an unusually homely and mean-looking
human being, with a skull like a bowling ball, he had opponents psyched out and
fearful before they even climbed in the ring with him. Hand speed? Joe
Frazier? No. Buster Mathis had incredible hand speed. Massimo, Primo Carnera
was a bum, a freak, an opponent, a nobody, hardly even able to box. Same with
Jess Willard. |
|9/27/03 11:34:59 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||8|alright kent i
know thats you, nobody can be that stupid. even dumb cowboys from texas are
smarter than that. come off of it kent. you'll never match me in anyway. dream