January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

guy like Louis or even Dempsey. Fast,accurate,deadly punchers. No way would
George beat Louis.|
|9/5/02 12:16:08 PM|Joe Krause|Chicago||sadmspats@yahoo.com||||10|Absolutely.
Foreman and his twenty pounds would manhandle Louis and put him into position to
be hit. Louis stands right there and used an offensive not defensive jab. Louis
moved forward and could be hurt by good punchers. He would be hurt and decked
using this strategy which is the only one he ever employed. You can't stand in
front of George and that is what Louis would do and it would be lights out no
question in my mind. Of course it is only a fantasy bout, who knows?|
|9/7/02 04:23:01 AM|Adrian Quinn|Liverpool, England||.||||10|I last night saw Mr
Earnie Shavers who, as many of you know, lives in England. Earnie was very sad
to hear of the death of James Quarry and he asked me to communicate his
sympathies, and his support, to the Quarry family. |
|9/12/02 12:06:36 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289zjud45x||||10|As great as Louis was
for his day, Foreman would have ko'd him in 3 or 4. George was wild, but not
slow. He had a good reach, and his power is legendary. Louis was not the iron
man that Frazier was, and Joe got demolished. Foreman was also about 20 pounds
heavier. Dick Saddler was a good trainer and teacher. In all honestly, I am not
even sure Louis could have beaten the Sonny Liston who beat Cleve Williams.|
|9/12/02 03:29:48 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|You know, I've been
way off base here before. Sometimes dead wrong, but geez Foreman over Louis.
Can't see it. George was KO'ed by Ali, not the hardest puncher in the world,
almost KO'ed by Ron Lyle and fell apart against Jimmy Young. Yes, Ali and Young
were defensive minded fighters. Young and, more so Ali took a beating trying to
wear George out. Lyle who was every bit the puncher George was, went after
George from the opening bell. He hurt Foreman from the first round until he
collasped in the corner. Louis was quicker and more accurate than either of
them. He could box defensivly, if he had to. George could not. If a prime Joe
Louis hurt you, you were finished. And Louis would have hurt George early.
Louis was not a bobbing weaving fighter who needed to get in close and wear you
down, like Frazier. Frazier was a slow starter who could be hurt early, Ali did
it in all three fights, Jerry hurt Joe early, so did Manual Ramos, Bob Foster
buckeled his legs, even Ron Stander shook Joe up. Louis was not a wild puncher,
he threw every punch from the balls of his feet straight off the shoulder with
tremendous force. He would punch between George's looping punches and destroy
him. I think George's best prime fight was his second fight with Frazier, a
nice straight forceful jab set up his looping right hand shots. But I think
Louis could have easily avoided Foremans right, if it went five or six rounds,
and countered with deadly results. George was very strong and that would have
kept him in the fight for a while. But he would take too much punishment from
Joe. It seems as though you guys are only looking at what Foreman could do and
not what Louis could do. As for Louis-Liston. If anybody on the top ten all
time great heavyweight list is overrated it's Sonny Liston. Hey Evrin, Kent,
Steve where are you guy's on this one? Are you going to bail me out or put me
in my place? |
|9/13/02 03:16:56 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|Bob, I am with
you on this one. I picked Louis over Foreman, although with some rough early
going. I think Louis speed would be a key element and I think he was much
stronger than people give him credit for.|
|9/13/02 07:14:49 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|REGARDING LISTON:
Well, I think the problem with Liston was that even early in his career he was
much older than people thought he was and probably started out almost past his
prime. But his fights in the late1950's and early 60's were pretty
impressive. But I realize that part of greatness is longevity and Liston was
really a flash in the pan, but a very impressive one while he was hot. I have
seen films of him against Cleve Williams, Eddie Machon, Patterson, etc. and for
a briefmoment he was awesome. the pay he pulverized Nino Valdez had to