January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

hanging on the head of an unsophisticated 20 year old without much of an
education. I don't agree with many of the things Ali did outside the ring and I
am an atheist without religion and no fear of hell. But in my early 20s I had
none of his pressures, no fear of a God or an Alah, and I STILL managed to get
myself into a truck full of trouble. I lost count of the number of street fights
I got into and I am now ashamed of the fact that I am not ashamed of that fact.
If RS thinks me insufferable now, you should have seen me then. So I think that
all things considered Ali didn't do too badly outside the ring and he is a much
better human being now than he was then. Certainly he is a much better human
being than me, and probably most people. Joe Frazier is a wonderful human being
as well, perhaps even better than Ali. Anyway, Massimo, now that you understand
the meaning of 'cheers', what does 'your shout' mean ? Cheers. |
|12/21/03 08:42:53 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Paul-I eat spaghetti every
day of my life, at least once a day ! I almost couldn' t immagine my life
without spaghetti...I never got involved in street fights for 2
reasons:1) I'm a very peaceful guy2) I' m small and weak. It's hard
to find a guy weaker than me !You played football also ! Are you big ?
I' d be curious to know !|
|12/21/03 08:44:18 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|I know the literal meaning of "
your shout ".|
|12/21/03 10:35:40
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|In reality, Ali
was given credit for deepness of thought and action at the time of the Vietnam
war, as well as in regards to racial issues that he really didn't deserve. He
could barely read and write, not to mention the fact that he was not really much
interested in or curious about things that didn't apply to him (the reason for
the real ~big~ interest in Vietnam). Whether the war was just or not, it must
have made parents here feel real good, watching Ali, with their sons hunkered
down in the swamps over there somewhere. The Muslims used him to stay on the
political scoreboard, he used them for credibility - a classic symbiotic
relationship.Re Frazier and Manilla. Believe it or not, the scores were
8-4 after twelve. Knowledgeable boxing people had it even after 10. Lookes like
the Phillipines rolled out the cream of the crop to "get the job done," as Joe
would say. Both were outstanding, though I had Joe ahead by half a hair after
14. Two of the top three greatest fighters of all time, no doubt.|
|12/21/03 01:37:29
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|BTW, re Frazier
and Ali. I noticed something that both did, and I'm sure with people like Futch
and Dundee watching them, I'm not the first.Ali telegraphed a ~lot~ of
his punches. A ~lot~ of them! While he was very good at not winding up with
them, his face changed markedly just before he threw one. In fact, I can't think
of any other top fighter who kept less of a poker face than Ali. Not ~as~ much
with a jab, but a real lot of the time with the others. This is one reason
Frazier's bobs and weaves made Ali miss so often, and not as much when Joe's
eyes were shut. Joe, with some amount of regularity, would drop his
right when he threw a left. His face didn't change at all though. He also kept
his gloves lower more of the time than most fighters with his style, but the
right did drop lower yet when a left was thrown. While little kids can have
swelling in the face from being hit by another just once, Frazier's
susceptibility to edema was absurd. Even Cobb and Wepner, two punching bags if
there ever were any, didn't swell up a tenth as much. It's a miracle that
swelling only cost him one fight.|
|12/21/03 04:39:06 PM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|RS - a lot of
knowledgeable people had Ali on top, too. Just depends on your interpretation of
'knowledgeable' and who is objective and who isn't. Not every disappointment can
be explained by alleging fixes or corrupt judges. That's often the easy way out.
The one thing you can't speculate on is the result in the record books. Out of