January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

eady to go to war. But it wasn't "pitty pat" punches that reshaped Frazier's
eyes and face. It was lethal jabs and crosses from Ali that had Frazier on the
verge of being knocked out. And yes, throwing in the towel saved Frazier from
further punishement and possible humiliation (if Ali had the hutzvah) if that
fight went into the 15th. |
|12/19/03 05:14:26
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|RS - Firstly, you
list no substantiation of your claim that the Ali - Foreman fight was
fixed.>Only your little kid idolotry of St. Muhammad keeps you from
entertaining it. Your ignorance leaves me wondering whether you have
even seen the third Ali - Frazier fight. >Probably two or three dozen
times, including twice in slow motion all the way through, with freeze frames
here and there.Claims you make regarding it were lifted from Joe
Frazier's own book. For instance, you wrote that "Frazier's eye betrayed him."
At page 163 Frazier wrote, "Things were going my way, but then my face betrayed
me." You accused Ali's punches of only being "pittypat". At page 146 Frazier
wrote, "The punches Clay did throw were mostly pittypat." And by the way, BS,
when Frazier's corner threw the towel in before the last round, all three judges
had Ali well in front.>I don't recall using the term "pitty-pat," but if
you say I have, I have. You've reshaped enough else to suit your case without
really anything else of much substance. Others have said as I have, which you'd
know if you read much about the sport. Padilla had it 66 - 60, Quiazon
67 - 62, and Nadayag 66 - 62. But they don't know as much about boxing as you
(or are you going to accuse them of 'fixing' the fight).>I wonder if
they decided on this before the fight? It's like the arguments about whether
Jerry Quarry would have taken Ali if he hadn't been cut. Short of knocking MA
out, Jerry was never going to be given a win. Look at all St. MA's other bogus
wins by decision. Maybe it'll be the first time you've ever seen them,
huh? In my view, by the end of that fight Frazier had nothing left
except blind hatred and even that couldn't save him. Despite all the woulda,
coulda, shouldas, Ali won that fight. Learn to live with it. Cheers.>It
probably was better Frazier didn't go out (his eyes). Short of a KO - dicey in
the shape both were in - no one was going to give a deserved decision to
him.You've begun with the ad hominem attacks just about on schedule -
always the tactic of the debator without the capacity to do much else.|
|12/19/03 06:18:14 PM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|BS - you take
the cake ! You didn't like Ali beating Foreman, so you say the fight was fixed.
Now, when presented with the fact that all three judges had Ali well on top of
Frazier when the fight was stopped, you accuse them of cheating too. No one can
debate you, BS, because you make it up as you go along. You never let the facts
interfere with a good conspiracy to explain your biase. Anything you can't
explain with logic, you allege fixes and cheats like every other sore loser in
history. Your slip is showing and the language you use in trying to portray
yourself as an expert is pretentious fluff. Your verbosity never contains facts
or substance. Hans Christian Roadscholerette ! (((((: Cheers.|
|12/19/03 07:30:08
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|I completely
withdraw my claims that the Foreman-Ali fight was fixed. It's much more peaceful
to accept official versions of things, wouldn't you agree? In my present state
of mind, I sure would have given all those heretics a piece of my mind who
thought man could fly, that the Earth revolved around the sun, that disease was
caused by microscopic organisms, or that TV would never catch on, among other
insane ideas. I go on record one step further: Muhammad Ali is not only the
greatest flawless boxer who ever stepped into a ring, but the greatest one who
ever will, and he just graciously carried Joe Frazier in those three fights to
give everyone a good show! What did he say before fighting Frazier the first
time? "It'll take more than an ugly, slow, flatfooted, punchy, roundhousing,