January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

victories. The third Norton fight in particular, I have watched this fight
several times recently and it was much closer than I remembered. I had thought
Norton was completely dominate but now I see it as Norton should have won a
close decision, about 8-6-1. Yes Ali is holding and talking a lot of the time
but he is still landing a lot of punches in between, probably more total than
Norton landed. The harder punches, more effective punches were landed by Norton
so it is a case of what the judges liked more, Ali's quanity or Norton's quality
and this is a subjective opinion.Ali was an amazing fighter in his
entire career because how many fighter could still dominate 99 percent of the
fighters out there for so long? The only ones that come to mind are Joe Louis
and maybe Larry Holmes. Ali could have been even better if he hadn't missed
over three years of his prime and he likely would have maintained the excellence
Bill from London pointed out even longer, remember in the first phase of his
career, he wasn't using the tricks he used later on.|
|8/4/04 12:53:46 PM|Fan|ny||morefights@hotmail.com||||8|When ever you fight the
champ of a weight class you must beat or knock-out tha champion, you can not
have a close fight or even a draw you must beat them to take his or her title. |
|8/4/04 01:24:20 PM|Fran|Philly||Plc7755@aol.com||||10|Kent you said it very
well when you said it depended what the judges liked. I say the judges liked
getting paid and voted so they would keep getting paid the big Ali dollars. Of
all of the great fighters from that era Ali who was the oldest hung on way past,
the others, way past his prime, for the money and the fans and judges all bought
into the hype. In the end it robbed us of having him around for the past 25
years. Going to training camp all of those fights and taking the shots after he
was worn out didn't do him any good. If those close fights were called the right
way he would have been penalized for holding and would have had about 8 more
losses maybe he would have quit sooner. The hype and the mindless idiots who
bought into it made him stay tooo long and take away his best years after
boxing. After Frazier 3 that should have been it. |
|8/4/04 02:10:26 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|As an Ali
fan, I often wonder at what point he could have walked away and not developed
the severe Parkinsons that has taken such a toll on him. If he retired afer
Manilla, 1975, would he have been spared? Probably the hardest punches after
that were landed by Shavers, Spinks and Holmes. Did these three fights put him
over? Was it the Manilla fight itself that started the downfall? I wonder if
he could have stopped sometime in the mid-70's, or if the damage had already
been done. And what about for Jerry? If he quit (for good) after the second
Frazier loss, he would have avoided the Norton punches and the damage inflicted
by that tomato can he fought when he was 47. Of course, a couple of Jerry's
best fights led up to the 1974 Frazier fight---so he didn't have any intention
of quitting at that point. |
|8/4/04 02:24:14 PM|Fran|Philly||plc7755@aol.com||||10|I think Jerry fighting in
1993 caused problems for him. I don't know why he fought Norton I never saw that
one and never will watch it. As for Ali he may have been ok after Frazier 3 but
all those fights and the training camps to prepare for it had to have hurt him.
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|8/4/04 04:34:50 PM|Joe Krause|Chicago||sadmspats@yahoo.com||||10|Biggest
stinker fights 1965-1980. These fights involved contenders, but truly
stunk.Holmes vs Shavers I- Fell asleep twice watching it.Ali vs
Lyle- Ali had his most boring. Well maybe not most boring.Ali vs
Folley- Like Steel Magnolia's.Ali vs Patterson II- Paint drying has
nothing on this.Terrell vs Chuvalo- Jab, Jab, Clutch, Jab, Jab,
Clutch.Ali vs Bugner II- A stinker, THROW A PUNCH JOE!!Ali vs
Young- A strategic fight. If watching televised scrabble excites you, get this
one.For the boxing fans.|
|8/4/04 05:04:13 PM|Fezzik|Roma||4||||10|Yes, but the eight round of Ali'-Lyle
was very good. I really don't know what Ali' was thinking during that fight. He