January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

consistently take all the others, or in some cases ~many~ of the others, but
everyone here did take some or most of the others on the list, and/or all the
other contenders in their time. Of the ones they fought, Chuvalo beat only
Quarry (officially at least), Patterson beat only Chuvalo, and JQ beat only
Patterson, but how can you not include them? Lyle and Shavers were
really tough guys and hard punchers, but were taken by everyone here who they
fought. Both were incomplete fighters, either hurried along (both) or trained
one dimensionally (Shavers).I didn't include Bugner, because potential
aside, he didn't beat anyone here he fought, and really had ~only~ potential.
Without results, that and a quarter will make a phone call.|
|12/7/03 03:03:35
PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|"Excuses,"
reasons, mitigating circumstances, whatever, are part of every discussion of
sports, of wins and losses alike. I think they can get out of hand sometimes,
ie, Mike Tyson's KO of Woody Allen at 00:01 of round one: "Woody would have won
if only he hadn't lost," LOL, but talking about other factors in wins and losses
can also lend color, understanding, and often greater perspective to events that
may not always be as black and white as the cold stats on a sports page. What
involving humans ~is~ ever completely subjective?|
|12/7/03 05:02:51 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||10|SOUNDS LIKE A
JAILHOUSE LAWYER, WHATS WITH ALL THESE LIST, WHO CARES :))))))))|
|12/8/03 12:00:02 AM|Evan B|Belfast||evanb46@juno.com||||10|Koo Koo, I don't
think you're funny or entertaining at all. On the contrary, you're depressing to
me, because you sound very much like a desperate alcoholic, prescription
medicine abuser, or mental patient. Some of the people here have been patient
with you, but clearly you are the one spitting in our communal bowl of soup. For
a day or two, you cooperated and were polite, but now you're back abusing
people, calling people assholes, and expressing your opinion as if we are
somehow obligated to do your bidding. Would you please, as a holiday gift to us
all, either mind your manners or stop posting? I mean this request seriously,
and intend you no personal offense or injury. You'll feel a lot better about
yourself, too, if you stop trying to insult people. The important word is
"trying", because do not think Kent, Paul, Steve, Massimo, Jimmy, Sonia or
Roadscholarette take your words to heart. And while I have your attention, what
is your relationship to the Quarry family? Are you an old friend from Bellflower
or Artesia, or did you meet Jerry as a fan, or are you an inlaw or cousin, or
were you once a boxer or promoter, or what? Finding out would be interesting to
all of us. Take care, my friend, and please think about what I suggest. |
|12/8/03 12:11:33 AM|Evan B|Belfast||venab46@juno.com ||||10|ON EXCUSES -- Yes,
I know they are often real and unavoidable, Roadscholarette. The point I was
trying to make (and I guess I failed) was that part of greatness is succeeding
despite them, in my opinion. I'm certainly not saying every injury or illness is
psychosomatic or a conversion reaction, but I believe the greatest champions
somehow bypass these problems through their will and determination. True, we
cannot explain this now, and certainly not prove it, so it's an intuitive idea.
Great champions like Dempsey, Louis, Marciano and even Ali rarely if ever had
excuses to make, or illnesses or medical conditions that stopped them. The same
goes for champions in other sports, like Jim Brown or Rod Laver or Jesse Owens
or Jackie Robinson or Marion Jones. It's true that some great champions like
Sandy Koufax and Joe Namath did have injuries or conditions that slowed them
down sometimes, but it seems to me the trend for the great is to overcome them.
What I'm talking about is related to the old saying, "Never let them see you
sweat." I know this idea is abstract and subjective, so I don't necessarily
expect anyone to agree, but think about it. |
|12/8/03 05:10:37 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Evan B -
"never let them see you sweat" has many meanings. It can mean that a champion
trains so long and hard, that his/her confidence is palpable (and they haven't