January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|10/1/02 02:38:17 AM|EVREN|London||@||||10|Well - Louis pips Foreman thanks for
the great vote - the biggest yet ! ! So there we have it the Final. Muhammad Ali
vs Joe Louis. I agree personally that these were the two finest Heavyweights in
history both in their accomplishments and ability. If we can have all the
results by next tuesday. Thankyou. |
|10/1/02 08:59:53 AM|Joe Krause|Chicago||sadmspats@yahoo.com||||10|Ali U dec
over 15 9-6 8-6-1 7-5-3 judges scores|
|10/1/02 06:17:35 PM|steve|N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|In reference to some
of the conditions that where allowed in the past,and were legit at the time.If
they were within the " parameters of the ring" , then I guess I don't a
legitament complaint.I did notice that after the Ali vs Foreman fight there was
alot of attention paid to rope tension among fight managers and safety commision
inspectors after that fight.After the Young vs Ali fight , I've never seen the
rope- a -dope tactic used successfully again.Bob,I expressed myself poorly on
one of my posts.The opinion I ment to give was that Ali's heavyweight
championship tenure was damaged at the beginning by the two Liston fights.I'f
I'm wrong about the Mafia and black muslim influence ,then okay I could be
wrong.What about , however,the claims that Liston was much older than he
claimed. I read somewhere that he might have been as old as 50!I's just that
this guy Liston went from crushing guys like Clevelend Williams twice and Floyd
Patterson twice ,to suddenly looking like an old man,chasing Ali without without
a clue.I guess in retrospect,it doesn't matter.No one else of that era could
have even touched Ali anywhy.I would pick the Ali of the Clevelend Williams
fight,which I consider his masterpiece of speed and reflex against a heavy
hitter.{Although I don't know how old Williams was ,I did see a tape of the
fight]This Ali would confuse Louis with his movement and batter him with those
lightning fast combinations and those accurate,lightning fast jabs.Ali would tko
Louis while still on his feet in 10 rounds.The heavier, slower, stronger Ali who
fought Joe Frazier at any time during those three fights would have ko'd Louis
in 8 to 10 rounds. |
|10/2/02 01:02:04 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|Louis is like
Tyson is just one way. Both were blessed with fast hands but not particularly
fast feet. Louis would never touch Ali and even if he did, no champ ever took a
punch like he could -- and that includes Jeffries, Marciano, and other iron
men. Probably only Chuvalo was more durable than Ali. To make a long story short
-- Ali by 9th round TKO. In mymind Ali was about as good they get.|
|10/2/02 04:18:35 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENTURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|Here is something to think about, i came
up with 13 major bouts of JERRY QUARRY'S career that were upsets,all four draw's
Jerry was they underdog(YES ALL FOUR!).then Jerry "UPSET!"
Patterson,spencer,Mathis,Foster,and on him being "upset".
Machen,Ellis,CHUVALO,and SECOND JOE FRAZIER(QUARRY 6-5 FAVORITE).I do not know
of any other heavy that had that many "upsets" win,lose, or draw!|
|10/2/02 04:25:22 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|VENYURA
CALIFORNIA||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|OH YES NO.13 RON LYLE OF COURSE,JERRY WAS
12-5 UNDERDOG. some places however went 7-5 LYLE BY FIGHT TIME, JERRY WAS
FAVORED OVER SHAVERS SO I COULD NOT INCLUDE THAT ONE. 13 UPSETS IN MAJOR BOUTS
OF ONE'S CAREER IS ASTOUNDING,WIN LOSE OR DRAW.Another thing was after only 13
fights, jerry was rated #33 world. and #22 after machen,I THOUGHT HE WASN'T
BROUGHT UP THAT QUICKLY?|
|10/2/02 08:49:49 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Steve, Sonny may
well have been payed off by the mob or threatend by the Black Muslems, wouldn't
suprise me a bit to find out Sonny took a couple hundred thousand to tank it.
And no one knows for sure how old Liston was when he fought Ali. I think he was
closer to 40 than 32. So yeah, Ali did start his reign with controversy. I
just wasn't clear what you meant. A 40 year old guy trying to catch Ali in
1964? I beleive, like I've said before, he just said screw it. He hit Ali with