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|3/13/03 06:15:49 PM|Forest Ward|South Carolina||joekevin@cs.com||||10|You guys<br />

are right about Kellerman on the whole he is a plus for boxing. I am told by<br />

people who know him that he is a nice guy. It's just that some of his remarks<br />

are so unfounded and said with such authority that I have difficulty listening<br />

to him. So I rarely do.All right fans since we are discussing Rocky<br />

Marciano prowlness. Let me ask a question. Who do you think punched harder,<br />

Rocky Marciano, or Cleveland "Big Cat Williams?" Well, I asked the only man who<br />

fought both of them, Keene Simmons, that question, and guess what he told me?<br />

Rocky Marciano. I asked Keene this question about 3 years ago at Ring 8 in NYC.<br />

At the time Keene was about 80 years old of sound mind and good health.|<br />

|3/14/03 12:58:31 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||oriononside@aol.com||||10|I once did a<br />

poll to see if fans at another website liked Max Kellerman as an announcer or<br />

not. Over 80% of the people who responded said they didn't like Kellerman.<br />

Uusally a commentator or writer has some people who like his work and others who<br />

don't like his work. I have never known about a commentator or writer that is<br />

so disliked before Kellerman. I am a regular at this other site and I visit<br />

other sites as well that I don't post at and the prevailing feeling seems to be<br />

that boxing fans in general don't like Kellerman as a commentator. |<br />

|3/14/03 07:09:57 AM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|MY TAKE ON<br />

MARCIANO: First let me say, I never saw Rocky fight in person. I was born in<br />

1955. Anyone that says Marciano was overrated was never hit by him. Any of the<br />

guys he fought, including Archie Moore and Joe Walcott had nothing but praise<br />

and respect for him. And Archie Moore was not a guy who threw roses at anyone.<br />

I don't think there was ever a better conditioned or more dedicated heavyweight<br />

champ then the rock, but I don't think he was the hardest puncher either.<br />

Foreman, Tyson, and maybe Liston and Louis hit harder. But the fact is -- no<br />

one in the pros ever walked out of the ring a winner over the guy 49 times. and<br />

that's got to count for something on a resume. I personally would not know who<br />

to pick on Rocky vs. Dempsey. I think Jack had faster hands, tougher skin, but<br />

not the stamina. About 15 years ago, my wife and I met Sandy Saddler at the<br />

Elks Club in Queens, the great ex-champ who also helped Dick Saddler train<br />

George Foremen. I asked Sandy who he thought hit harder Foreman or Marciano and<br />

who he thought would have won. He picked Marciano on both counts. |<br />

|3/14/03 08:43:16 AM|Sabrina <strong>Quarry</strong>-<br />

Porter|Florida||sabrinalporter@aol.com||||10|I JUST WANTED TO SAY I LOVE AND<br />

MISS YOU VERY MUCH DAD.ALWAYS IN MY HEART FOREVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!|<br />

|3/14/03 12:09:56 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|Ok, I didn't mean to<br />

imply Marciano was over rated as a fighter or he was not one of the hardest<br />

punchers in history. I actualy have him rated as #2 behind Ali on my all time<br />

heavy list. Some people think I nuts for that, but he never lost and no matter<br />

who he fought what style he faced he always found a way to win. In most cases<br />

the other guy was flat on his back. No other fighter in history can claim that,<br />

and only Tunney and Jeffries came close as heavies. <strong>The</strong> jury is still out on Roy<br />

Jr. I just think the champions I mentioned punched harder with one punch thats<br />

all. And the only one I've seen fight is Foreman and believe me I'm no expert<br />

on the art of taking heavyweight punches. So when Saddler says Marciano hit<br />

harder than Foreman I'll have to go with that. One more thing, It's good to<br />

have people to discuss, agree,disagree whatever about boxing. And I want to<br />

thank the <strong>Quarry</strong> family for keeping this site going. It's not like other sites<br />

I visit, there is alot of respect for others opinions here and I've learned alot<br />

from that. |<br />

|3/14/03 12:51:50 PM|John Gerard|NYC||rock289z@yahoo.com||||10|TO BOB: to be<br />

honest with you I was shocked when Sandy Saddler said the thought Marciano hit<br />

harder than Foreman. Maybe Sandy at that point in time was on the outs with<br />

George and didnt want to give him credit. I don't know, he did not seem bitter.<br />

I do remember him saying something about both men would have gone down, but<br />

Rocky would have gotten up and George would not have. or something like that.

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