January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

is where alot of it occurs.Football players,(if you know any)show signs of the
same trauma.That helmet just like headgear does not protect the brain.In fact
you tend to get more careless when you have head protection.The punches don't
feel the same and it's easy to just take shots instead of slipping ect...You are
right about the time involved.It comes on you gradually and gets worse as you
get older. |
|8/7/04 11:39:26 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Joe-Thanks, very interesting.|
|8/9/04 04:00:06 PM|Bob Bumbera|NC||renfbera@aol.com||||10|No offense intended
Gerry, I just get kind of short when I hear people mention Fixed or Rigged
fights or any athletic event for that matter. And I do know about Tyson's bi-
polar depression issues and the fact he is sometimes on medication and sometimes
off it. And your right about the biting incident, he shouldn't have done it.
He should have hit Holyfield low or jammed a thumb his eye, gave him a knee or
some other "Duran-esque" tactic to keep Holyfield honest. However in the state
of mind Tyson was in, without the medication he just went off. And don't forget
Tyson was giving Evander the elbow, Ali held Frazier behind the head-Frazier hit
Ali on the hips. Tit-for-tat, Holyfield showed Tyson he would not be bullied
in the first fight and Tyson, couldn't deal with it. Same for Bout #2. I
mentioned the Foreman fight as several people who have posted here in the past
said it was fixed. Nonsense. I do disagree with you about Holmes though.|
|8/9/04 05:41:27 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|I agree that
power punches should count more than jabs---it's part of the whole scoring
package, including the aforementioned ring generalship.One reason I hate
Olympic boxing scoring is this nonsense about a jab counting as much as a
knockdown. As long as you make contact with the white part of the glove, you
get points and if you land a jab it counts the same as if you tag someone good
and drop them. Ridiculous. It's often easier to land a lighter punch, so why
should that count for as much as a heavy punch? By the way, to the people who
think that Teo Stevenson would have been a great pro, I can guarantee you that
winning all those three round fights against amateurs does not indicate that he
belonged in a ring with Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes, etc. In fact, based on
style, someone like Mike Tyson would cut him down like a tree. Teo was a guy
who dominated the amateur ranks because he stuck around long enough to gain the
experience to take inexperienced men with some ease. But you put a 1972 or 1976
Stevenson in with Foreman from the same era, and it would have been ugly. I
would think Foreman could take him in under two minutes, much less two rounds.
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|8/9/04 07:46:59 PM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|For any one
who thinks the Ali/Foreman fight was fixed, consider this, Ali showed Foreman
early in the fight that he was in for a real fight by landing some hard right
hand leads that got George's respect. This was a key mental strategy to let
George know he wasn't in for a walk over, that he would have to pay if George
got too reckless in his pursuit of Ali. Ron Lyle also showed that George could
not just punch him with impunity and although George ended up winning in the end
against Lyle, anyone who has seen this fight knows it was hardly easy, and this
is an understatement! In order to have a chance of defeating Foreman in the
first phase of his career, a fighter would have to hit George hard, early or
somehow survive George's early onslaught in order to mount an offense later on
in the fight and this is something neither Joe Frazier, in their first fight, or
Ken Norton did and they got knocked out early, never having a chance to mount an
offense. Frazier did land one token left hook but it was hardly the kind of
hook that destroyed Jimmy Ellis or knocked down Ali. Would Frazier had won? Who
knows? But it likely would not have been so one sided, maybe it would have a
been a brawl like Foreman/Lyle, where both fighters went down, if Frazier had
landed his best shots. My point is, if Ali could hurt Foreman and he clearly did
in their fight, than Frazier or Norton, who hit harder than Ali could surely
could hurt him.Another point is Ali somehow knew that George could