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January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

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|12/1/03 12:47:10<br />

PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Anyone ever seen a<br />

"Toughman Competition?" We rented a tape once, just for the heck of it, and it<br />

was terrible. We weren't exactly anticipating the Thrilla in Manila, but these<br />

guys were just plain awful! Only a couple appeared to be in any kind of<br />

condition at all, and after about a round all were exhausted. Punches missed<br />

only by accident, as the "boxers" wheezed around the ring, bellies jiggling,<br />

hoping to connect on opponents who were about as mobile as a cement truck.<br />

<strong>The</strong> problem is that, in addition to training regimens that likely<br />

consist, at most, of buffalo wings and beer and an occasional 30 second barroom<br />

"brawl" (first landed punch wins), the competitors know nothing at all about<br />

fighting or defense, and even a punch from a like opponent can be dangerous,<br />

even lethal, considering that, in addition to punches connecting by accident,<br />

they also ~miss~ by accident too. <strong>The</strong>se things are savage carnivals, preying on<br />

clueless innocents, however mean they may be in spirit.As PT Barnum said<br />

though, "<strong>The</strong>re's a sucker born every minute." Why should greedy promoters shun<br />

Sapp vs Tyson, or Butter Bean vs Tyson or whatever, if there are people who are<br />

going to grab up tickets to the execution?|<br />

|12/1/03 01:23:06 PM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|RS-I don't think that<br />

Butterbean is so weak. He recalls me Tony Galento, he is very fat but his punch<br />

is heavy ! In my opinion a fight against him would be more dangerous for Tyson<br />

than a fight against Roy Jones, or a return match against that tough warrior<br />

that he fought in his last fight ( Clifford). Who knows how would be a " Softman<br />

competition " ...|<br />

|12/1/03 02:30:18<br />

PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Massimo -<br />

It's all comparative. <strong>The</strong> guy who plays tennis will probably beat up his<br />

neighbor who does nothing. Butter Bean will take the tennis player. Galento will<br />

take Butter Bean. Foreman or Frazier would probably take the lot in one night.<br />

That's where Toughman Competitions are so dangerous - either unskilled against<br />

unskilled, playing punch roulette, or the odd guy in the tournament who is<br />

enough better by comparison, in terms of conditioning or ability to fight, who<br />

goes against some poor sap who only thinks he's tough, from the safe distance of<br />

watching TV, and saying to himself, "I could do that!"|<br />

|12/1/03 03:17:21 PM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|RS-How much are able of<br />

gaining ( or to gain) these desperate guys who fight in these " Toughman<br />

competitions" ?Do you agree that R.Jones wouldn't have a chance of beating<br />

Tyson ?Instead I'd like to see Tyson-Toney, that would be an exciting fight<br />

!Do you think that Tyson's power would be too much for Toney ?About odd<br />

fights, did you ever see Andre' the Midget vs Chuck Wepner ?|<br />

|12/1/03 04:05:55 PM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||10|i'd have to say<br />

that i am impressed with james toney being able to fight at heavyweight, even if<br />

it was a very old holyfield, he still deserves credit. it's really hard to<br />

compete with people taller than you. |<br />

|12/1/03 04:14:19 PM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|KooKoo-I agree with you<br />

completely. Toney has the heart of a warrior and is iron chinned. He fought<br />

Holyfield very bravely ! I don't know if even Mike Tyson, with his devastating<br />

power would be able of stopping him. He should train hard for this fight and I<br />

don't know if he is focused enough on boxing today for winning such a fight.<br />

Toney is a great fighter. |<br />

|12/1/03 05:49:30 PM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|<br />

Comments:RS-How much are able of gaining ( or to gain) these<br />

desperate guys who fight in these " Toughman competitions" ?><strong>The</strong> only<br />

reason to fight in one of these is to show off. <strong>The</strong>y get nothing for it - maybe<br />

a trophy or a baseball cap or a small prize. I personally would not allow anyone<br />

to hit me unless it was for money!Do you agree that R.Jones wouldn't<br />

have a chance of beating Tyson ?>A good chance, yes. Tyson's no kid any

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