January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

|7/3/04 06:51:09 AM|Ernie Laxalt|Reno, Nevada||elax66@aol.com||||10|(1) Gerry,
you can be sure Mr. Paige's victories were real. By the time you saw him in the
AL, he was in his 60s. Aak any major leaguers you know from '40 to '70. They'll
know. (2) Everybody, will Oscar Bonavena be able to beat Bernard Hopkins?
It's the first time in his career when Oscar is not the favorite. I think
Bernard will stop him, maybe Rd 8 or 9. (3) You know, if it's valid to
consider who's best "pound for pound", then it's valid to imagine all the
fighters from all time in the same weight division and who would win. This game
removes only the weight difference. Who do you think would win: Ali versus
Sugar Ray Robinson, or Sugar Ray Leonard? Roberto Duran versus Rocky
Marciano?Jerry Quarry versus Alexis Arguello?Nino Benvenuti versus Billy
Conn?Hammerin' Henry Armstrong versus Tommy Hearns?Marvin Hagler versus
Joe Frazier?Archie Moore versus Roy Jones, Jr?REMEMBER, THESE GUYS ARE
ALL FIGHTING AT THE SAME WEIGHT. Would you pay to see any of these fights? |
|7/3/04 06:52:40 AM|Ernie Laxalt|Reno||elax66@aol.com||||10|Sorry. I meant Oscar
de la Hoya, not Oscar Bonavena. |
|7/3/04 10:20:32 AM|Kent|La Habra, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|Welcome Ernie,
interesting bouts in pound for pound match ups. They are very hard to pick
winners. One thing for sure, Jerry Quarry fairs better than he did at
heavyweight in that if I remember correctly, at least 47 or his 66 career pro
fights, Jerry was outweighed by his opponents and even so, Jerry didn't do too
badly. Jerry was also outweighed in seven out of his eight losses (not counting
the loss at age 47 that should not have happened). It could be all of his
losses but I don't know the weights of the Machen fight. Jimmy D, where are
you? He knows this stuff.Ernie, you fall into the hype about Paige's
age, he was probably around 45 when he started pitching for Cleveland and he
lasted six years, which puts him at about 51 when he left. He did make one
apperance for the Kansas City A's in his mid sixties and he went one inning and
did not allow a run (just to qualify for a pension), so Paige must have been
amazing in his younger days.Gerry, I was reading a book about Ted
Williams discussing the twenty five best hitters of all time. Williams included
Josh Gibson in this list based his talking to ex Negro league players who played
with him and against him but also due to the fact that during a fifteen game
exihibition tour against major league pitchers sometime during the 1930s, Gibson
batted .415 with five home runs. Negro league statistics were at best
unreliable and Gibson at times probably benefited from playing against lessor
talent and Williams concedes this, but he also played against a lot of all time
greats that were never recognized.Williams in his book felt althought a
lot of weight for picking the best hitters of all time was put on numbers, what
kind of statistics a hitter put out, year in and year out, there was no way he
could leave out Josh Gibson, considered the best hitter the Negro leagues ever
had. I would include Paige in a list of pitchers for the same reasons Williams
includes Gibson.|
|7/3/04 11:12:51 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|What the hell is a pitcher ?
What'sthe Pisan for that, guys ?|
|7/3/04 11:19:10 AM|Massimo|Roma||4||||10|Kent-In the Quarry-Machen
fight the weights were:Quarry 187, Machen 193. Take care.|
|7/3/04 04:21:26 PM|JIMMY DORSEY|SPOKANE
WASHINGTON||RONNYRAINS@YAHOO.COM||||10|Hi Kent I Moved to Spokane and do not
have a computer handy. Hey I just spent 12 hours on Quarry from the Las Vegas
microfilm. And have detailed his record,better than anybody in history, not
bragging just fact. His first bout with "Seargeant" Gene Hamilton Quarry weighed
183 to Hamilton's 191. I have all of Jerry's weights except his second "Junior"
Ellis bout. and have all his opponets, I tell you mugs it was really great
reading all those bouts, I could copy some off the LAS VEGAS JOURNAL, but the
L.A. TIMES.(which has almost everything on Jerry) there was too much red tape to
get them copied off (un-real).So it was kind of frustrating, don't get me