January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

the fight at age 47) were to fighters listed in the top fifty of all time. A
very hard time to be a heavyweight. It might be seven out of eight but I would
have to check to see if Eddie Machen, who beat Jerry very early in Jerry's
career, is in the top fifty list. Machen, by the way, deserves a top fifty
ranking also.Even, I have had friends who said the same thing about
Jerry. They asked me, "what is the fuss about this guy?" Until I showed them
some highlights of Jerry at this best. Boxing circles around Lyle, creaming
Shavers and Mac Foster. They changed their minds very fast and now say, "that
Quarry was a bad ass!"|
|11/22/03 04:05:34 AM|Paul|Sydney, Australia||PlMls4@aol.com||||10|Evan - never
been unemployed even one day of my life. I am self-employed operating a very
small company. Nothing wrong with being working class. What's this Bears thing
in your web name. Are you a Norths supporter ? I grew up at Willoughby. I used
to play lower grades at Norths. I now support the Rabbitohs. All the best to
you. |
|11/22/03 04:38:29 AM|Evan B|Sydney||evanb46@juno.com||||10|Kent, that is one
outstanding post, mate. You answered everything very clearly and you convinced
me, too. I will look at the Ali and Frazier fights again. It's been as long as
30 years. Maybe we got ourselves goofused then into believing Ali, Frazier,
Foreman, Terrell and those guys were unbeatable. Paul, Bearscove is my name,
you muck! Hahahaha! No, I'm from Ireland. Belfast 4 United!!Floyd
Patterson was excellent for a while but the losses started adding up, and he
just did not have the tough mental set to be a top fighter. He was left in the
dust. (Massimo -- I mean others went beyond him, as if they kicked up road dust
settling on him.) I still like the question a while back about the dudes JQ
KOed in the Golden Gloves. Anyone know? Does anyone remember King
Fletcher from the 60s? One night in Los Angeles at the Olympic, he stopped Amos
Lincoln in 1 or 2 rounds. Soon after he dropped off the radar. To where?|
|11/22/03 05:49:54 AM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|Kent-I think Jack Sharkey
was an excellent fighter atthe beginning of his career. He beat George
Godfrey and he was kicking Dempsey's ass !I think probably prime vs prime JQ
would have beaten him, but it would have been a good fight. Carnera was a good
fighter, but his last competitive year was 1935, when he was 29. In that year he
lost only to Joe Louis. After that year, his career was a disaster.|
|11/22/03 10:23:39 AM|kookoo|ny||kookooclock000@yahoo.com||||10|thank you for
your answering that kent, jerry fought these guys while himself being a
cruiserweght, i know that division did not exist at that time, but it was
amazing that he could compete with these people, gil clancy once said " you
shoulda seen jerry handle those big guys in the gym" so he could handle most
them , just not all of them, for 195lbs , you can't do much better. koo koo|
|11/22/03 11:03:29
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Kent -Yes,
he probably was a half click below Frazier, Ali, Foreman, and Holmes, but at the
same time, particularly in this division, even a reasonably competent fighter
can turn everything around in a hearbeat. That's why I wrote the JQ vs other
champions piece. Do I think Jerry ~would~ have taken Joe Louis, Sonny Liston,
Jack Dempsey, etc.? All things being equal, probably not, but at the same time,
just one landed punch or split second lapse, and destiny changes in the ring. I
could have written a similar piece, changed for styles, for Norton, Chuvalo,
Lyle, Shavers.I know I talked a lot about Bugner before, and I'm going
to again now. I'm not a secret Joe B fan, per se, but the guy interests me. The
recent clip made me think of his fight with Frazier. Perhaps Frazier wasn't on
the razor's edge he was on in Manilla, but he inflicted less damage on Bugner
than he did on Ali. Bugner moved more than Ali too, and was as good, possibly
better defensively (since I don't consider the rope a dope to be defense).
Frazier took Bugner to a knee, but in the same round, JB staggered Smokin' Joe
with a right. Frazier's eye made him susceptible to rights, yet no one threw