January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

against Hearns---the fact that he turned slugger to KO Hearns blew my mind. I
never doubted Leonard again. I actually picked Leonard to beat Hagler and he
proved me right. |
|9/27/05 02:36:49 PM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|Angelo, sorry about that mistake
regarding Duran. Regarding Leonard I was never a big fan of his. But as far as
being a fighter he is among the best. Leonard was a true warrior he let it all
hang out. In this sense he was like Ray Robinson he was the ultimate warrior He
was willing to make any sacrafice when it came to winning a
fight.Strangely what people sometimes forget about Leonard is that yes
he lost the 1st fight with Duran. But even though Duran won a unamious decision
it was a close fight. If I was in a war, I would want to be in a foxhole with
Leonard because I know he would fight until death.|
|9/27/05 03:57:46 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|Gerry - Leonard and Duran were both
great. I agree that Leonard was outclassing Duran the second fight, but don't
forget that Duran was a originally a lightweight who'd risen two weight
divisions. Also, remember that Duran won that first fight against
Leonard. Even so, I'm more of a fan of Leonard than I am of Duran.Pete,
who are your top 10 lightweights ?|
|9/28/05 08:44:41 AM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|Noam, regarding my top 10
lightweight. I base my selection on fighters who fights I have seen. Meaning
someone such as Benny Leonard I cannot rate because what films I saw of him were
of poor quality or of short duration, the same can be said about Ross,
Canzoneri, McLarin... So of the ones I have seen on tape here goes:1 Ray
Robinson2 Carlos Ortiz3 Pernell Whitaker4 Roberto Duran5 Ike
Williams6 Hank Armstrong7 Joe Brown8 Jimmy Carter9 Julio Cesar
Chavez10 Ismael LagunaI include Ray Robinson as a lightweight
because when he turned pro he fought as a lightweight. And in less than 1 year
as a pro he beat the lightweight champion Sammy Angott in a 10 round decision.
Robinson was denied a shot at the lightweight championship because he was to
good, if given a shot he certainly would have won that title too.|
|9/28/05 01:53:48 PM|Angelo|Washington, DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|This is
some list. I might flip-flop Sweet Pea Whittaker and Duran---maybe---but from
the fighters I'm familiar with on your list, it's pretty damn accurate. I must
say, Duran vs. Robinson would have been something to see.|
|9/28/05 02:45:21 PM|Pete|Cleveland||N/A||||10|Angelo, if we removed Robinson
from my list and just included from Ortiz to Armstrong there is little to choose
from regarding each fighter's greatnesss. If they all fought each other 7 times
the end results would probably be something like a 4-3 win loss record they are
all so equally great. |
|9/28/05 03:36:59 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|A good list from Pete. Another
excellent lightweight, although I've never seen film of him (probably because he
fought in 1902) was Joe Gans. He held the lightweight title from 1902 to 1908
when he was beaten by Battling Nelson.Gans was black and because he so
thoroughly dominated the division, whites set up their own version of the title
(a white lightweight championship) because they couldn't beat Joe to get the
real one.|
|9/28/05 11:41:33 PM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|A recurring
theme on this site is us Quarry fans complaining about programs like ESPN
Classic just showing Jerry's losing fights.They never show Jerry's
biggest wins such as over Patterson, Lyle, and Shavers.They just showed
for the 100th time Jerry's loss to Ken Norton. But rather than rahash that
Jerry could have beaten Norton or he would have had a much better chance prime
verses prime, I would like to address the fact that the Norton fight lasted way
too long because after fighting effectively and competitively for three rounds,
Jerry took a terrible beating in the fourth and fifth rounds, leading up to a
late fifth round TKO loss to Norton.So from early in the fourth round to
the ending Jerry had very little chance of winning and the fight should have