January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

greats, even on their best nights, but they all did provide Tyson with
difficulties and Tyson was able to come out on top. I would also add Razor
Ruddock to that group.Tyson might catch Frazier early but if not and Joe
got to smokin full steam ahead, Tyson wouldn't have the heart to hang tough with
Joe. I agree, Tyson is below Frazier on the all time list.|
|6/13/05 07:35:13 PM|Joey|Canada||aol||||10|TYSON, during his golden days, would
I feel have hanged tough with FRAZIER and I'm certain he would have KO'd him.
The MIKE TYSON of the middle to late '80's was a completely different fighter
than what he became post DOUGLAS.As far as TYSON'S opponents are concerned,
who did he fight??? Well he fought most of the top guns of his era and put most
of them away very decisively. Now I know many of us will say, but who did he
fight??? Well who did FOREMAN fight...ALI & FRAZIER, who did FRAZIER fight...
ALI & FOREMAN, who did LISTON fight...PATTERSON & ALI,who did MARCIANO
fight...LOUIS, CHARLES & WALCOTT, who did ALI fight...LISTON, FRAZIER & FOREMAN.
MOST champions have maybe 2 or 3 really big fights, with the balance being
not much of a contest.TYSON fought a few big names...HOLMES(out of
retirement, rusty, but LARRY was one of the all time greats in my
opinion)...SPINKS(as stated, dethroned LARRY questionably, a fighter I never
admired, yet he was champion) HOLYFIELD(both were over the hill when they met,
with TYSON further over the hill than HOLYFIELD) and finally LEWIS, a fight
which happened a decade too late, lucky for LENNOX unlucky for a washed up MIKE
TYSON).We all know the outcomes of most of the above stated contests and of
the group mentioned, ALI was the only one to defeat his three greatest
opponents(honourable mention to MARCIANO).The problem with most of these
guys is that they don't seem to know when to throw in the towel and it leaves
them looking like bums quite often, through the eyes of boxing fans, but check
out their victories on film, it's a healthier perspective.|
|6/13/05 08:51:23 PM|Angelo|DC||funktron@yahoo.com||||10|Joey and Kent---your
points are valid. Tyson in the 80's did fight whoever they put in front of him
and did destroy them. He couldn't help it if the level of competition didn't
measure up to the previous decade. The overlap in careers meant that Tyson, had
he not been in jail, might have fought Lewis earlier or even Riddick Big Daddy
Bowe---and these would have been interesting tests. But post-Douglas, I don't
know how well Tyson would do. In fact, Kent is correct that Tyson did face some
adversity against Ruddock and overcame it. But the same adversity against Bowe
or Lewis? Maybe Tyson would have had more trouble. Logic says that the old
Tyson could blow Lewis out with an early KO, but you never know, you just never
know. Tyson seemed so invincible at one point, who could ever imagine the
losses piling up late in his career? Hey, mayabe it's not too late for Tyson
vs. Bowe! They could call it "Loser Stays Retired" and write that into the
contract! |
|6/13/05 09:29:35 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Quarry had a decent chance
against Tyson. Frazier was more of a volume pressure fighter than Tyson ever
was. I think Tyson would lose to Quarry at any point post-Douglas. Before
Douglas Tyson is a small favorite. Quarry dealt pretty well with this type of
fighter.|
|6/13/05 11:50:23 PM|Ed|Cicero N Y||Mooseygoop@aol.com||||10|Angelo,Yes
a fight with Lewis early in Tysons career would have been interesting, but if i
remember right Tyson or his promoter paid millions to side step Lewis in the
90's. It was so Tyson could fight another opponent (Holyfield?) but it also
indicated Tyson was reluctant to fight Lewis.Kent,I see your
points about Tyson knocking off those contenders early in his career. It wasn't
just that he beat them its how he beat them...with lightning fast punches and
everyone on edge of there seat wondering when Tysons bomb would strike. A savage
attack fighter like Tyson doesn,t come along all that often and when one does
people don't want to believe its over for them...Tyson had tons of faults but he
gave me and millions of others plenty of thrills when he was the *champ*.|