January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

ounds and surviving Foreman's initial onslaught was also important. Ali
combined both of these plans and he won!|
|10/29/03 06:11:27 AM|Kent|Rome||4||||10|Kent-Who do you think we have
to blame for the loose ropes in Kinshasa ? Who did want that the ropes were
loose ? Ali' ? Who ?|
|10/29/03 07:07:49 AM|Massimo|Rome||4||||10|Last comment, obviously, was by
Massimo, not by Kent ! The hurry made the mistake !|
|10/29/03 09:15:50
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Angelo -
One reason Ali was liked by so many people was that he was an eternal
child. Like most prizefighters, he was a real nice guy outside the ring, and in
addition to that, he took true joy in everything he did, including working out.
Early on, he was always enthused about running, going to the gym, working on
technique, and so forth, but from everything I've read, as his career wore on,
along with certainly the aches and pains, he came to enjoy the people more than
the workouts. He falsely stated that if he'd been in top shape all the time, his
career wouldn't have lasted as long. What was wearing was getting ~out~ of shape
between fights, then having to work back into a semblance of condition, not to
mention the pounding he always took in training. It would certainly have been
better had he continued to run some, jump rope, and hit the bags in between
fights, as an ordinary person might do.Kent -While Ali was
certainly the most adaptable man in the ring ever, Joe Frazier might have been
one of the ~least~. I read that Frazier put Jimmy Young in the hospital after a
sparring session, yet Young defeated Foreman. Joe was getting the right idea
about how to fight George when they went at it the second time, but his body
betrayed him by that time. Starting out like Tyson, tagging George early,
counterpunching, and staying in close was the key. Roping a dope for the first
time in his life, counter to instinct, may have made him even more of a sitting
duck, though his exquisite gift for bobbing made it work for a while.|
|10/29/03 11:14:49
AM|Roadscholarette|Chicago||roadscholarette@hotmail.com||||10|Ali could be
vicious in the ring early in his career, but also showed bursts of compassion
for overmatched opponents, particularly in career two. A number of times, he
waved the referee in to stop a fight. When Coopman got the fight with Ali, he
was thrilled of course, but his manager said it could have only been with Ali,
since many Olympic boxers could have taken "The Lion of Flanders." He said
Frazier and Foreman were out, because "they were killers."In Thrilla, in
the 13th round, when Frazier's left eye was swollen completely shut, and Ali was
almost potshotting Joe, he hurt him, Frazier staggered back, and Ali just
watched. He knew JF was in trouble, but didn't move in with a multi-punch
combination, which could have had fatal possibilities to someone who couldn't
even see the punches coming.I remember Frazier doing this in the second
Quarry fight, and then not really tearing into Jerry when the confused Joe Louis
ordered the fight to continue.I realize this posture can be risky, but I
also think it shows a lot of class and sportsmanship.|
|10/29/03 01:00:49 PM|max hord|fernandina bch,fla||rasluc@msn.com||||10|Just
watched a tape of Wilfredo Gomez and Lupe Pintor.If you haven't seen that fight
in a long time you should.Brutal.One of the most disgusting things I ever
witnessed was when Pintor fans threw cups of urine on Johnny Owen as he was
being carried out of the arena on a stretcher.Johnny Owen would be here today if
it wasn't for his management or lack of it.He had no business fighting
Pintor.That was a set up by the then WBC crooks.|
|10/29/03 03:25:53 PM|steve |N.J.||dmmsrm@comcast.net||||10|On the subject of
boxing cruelty and corruption; I seem to remember a young and upcoming fighter
named John Collins. He was badley beaten in a fight against a journeyman
fighter.I apoligise again for my faulty memory.Perhaps I should try doing a
little research! Anyway,He suffered broken cheek bones,broken nose,jaw,eye