January 2002 - July 2006 - The Jerry Quarry Foundation

occasion you claimed to be a NY City police officer. I suppose neither is
mutually exclusive, but who are you today ?Now, to your question. If I
had a magic wand would I wave it and repair Ali's health ? Oddball inquiry,
Forest, and where is this heading ? Do you believe in magic ? Are you really a
witch today ?What the heck. I'll answer your question, anyway. Yes, I'd
wave the wand and cure Ali. I'd wave it for Joe, too. And Jerry Quarry and Joe
Louis and everyone else who the sport harmed. Wouldn't you ?Everytime
you have been caught out in the past, Forest, you never apologize and admit
error. You usually disappear for a month or so, hoping everyone forgets what a
jerk you made of yourself. Probably off on some sort of binge. |
|7/1/05 05:26:57 PM|Noam|same||same||||10|AngeloFrazier's fight with
Mathis in 1968 was for the vacant New York Heavyweight Title. I assume that they
had to make it up because Frazier ducked the WBA elimination tournament. It was
a face saving exercise.By the way, at page 69 of his book, Frazier says
this about his 'fight' against Dave Zyglewicz:"The press made the fight
out to be a farce and wondered out loud whether Smokin' Joe was ducking the
serious contenders to fight dogmeat."Well, 30 years on, Joe, many of us
are still wondering out loud !Frazier even acknowledges at page 125 that
the press were "skeptical" about his fight with Terry Daniels who weighed only
191 pounds. The press asked Joe, "Is Daniels better than your sparring partners
?" Joe answered: "A little."After the fight Daniels complained that
"they needed a math major for a referee, he had to count so much" (in reference
to how many times he was knocked down).Ron Stander was Frazier's next
opponent. At page 126 Frazier said of him, "Stander was known as a beer-
guzzling, knockabout character - a kind of midwestern Tony Galento. He said
things like, "How much beer do I drink ? I lose count after a case". Or: "Have I
ever been knocked down ? Yeah. By the police with a
nightstick."Stander's wife was reported as saying (at page 127 of
Frazier's book): "Ron gets hurt every time he goes in the ring because he's
never been in shape, " she said. "How do I know Ron gets hurt ? Because after a
lot of fights he doesn't know what he is doing and doesn't remember what
happened."That about says it all, doesn't it. |
|7/1/05 06:21:44 PM|Fan|Fandom||Fan@Fandom.com||||10|Noam, where would you rank
Frazier in the history of heavyweights? Also tell me about the different fights
of Frazier you have seen and what you thought.|
|7/1/05 07:41:28 PM|max hord|fernandina bch,fla||maxhord@adelphia
.net||||10|Good luck Thomas Hearns !!! Some guys just do better than
others.....He may be as good as Big George was.|
|7/1/05 07:47:29 PM|max hord|fernandina bch,fla||maxhord@adelphia.net
||||10|Remember this.Jimmy Ellis was a blown up middleweight.That ain't saying
much for Jerry Quarry when Ellis beat him.Jerry blew the opportunity of his
career in that fight.|
|7/2/05 01:21:33 AM|Kent|Murrieta, Ca||kentallenent@aol.com||||10|The WBA
tournament took place starting in about August of 1967 and it lasted into 1968.
So no there was no elimination tournament in 1969.I am not sure why the
NYSAC, the other states, and parts of what would later become the WBC decided on
Mathis as one of the contestants for the title but I do know at the time
Frazier's title was at least as well regarded as the WBA title and both disputed
titles became undisputed when Frazier beat Ellis in 1970. Of course really
lifted all doubts to his claim to heavyweight champion when he beat Ali in
1971.Angelo, a good analogy but boxing and basketball are different
sports. Boxing tradition has shown that a number one ranking has been a way to
get a title shot. It would be nice if an elimination tournament was
held each year in each division but in reality, the WBA heavyweight tournament
in 1967-68 was the exception, not the rule.|
|7/2/05 03:03:26 AM|Massimo |Roma||4||||10|Giacomo Toney is another blown up
middleweight, but this doesn't mean he ain't ("ain't" in this case means " is